So what you are saying is that a method change will involve delivering parcels and 1st Class letters on a Saturday using a different method? i.e. over a larger area?Martin Walsh wrote: ↑21 Nov 2024, 21:29The USO change will not take place as a revision. The plan is that it will be deployed as a method change.
When we went from two deliveries to one it was a method change deployment.
The 39 units which will be part of the USO pilot subject to us getting our bargaining agenda will test the planning
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I said this to you in my first reply , you won’t only be doing your own duty as during the week.Perseus wrote: ↑21 Nov 2024, 21:41So what you are saying is that a method change will involve delivering parcels and 1st Class letters on a Saturday using a different method? i.e. over a larger area?Martin Walsh wrote: ↑21 Nov 2024, 21:29The USO change will not take place as a revision. The plan is that it will be deployed as a method change.
When we went from two deliveries to one it was a method change deployment.
The 39 units which will be part of the USO pilot subject to us getting our bargaining agenda will test the planning
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In theory the following applies
Only 50% of addresses will get a delivery of all mail each day Monday -Friday. However on the days this happens the workload , call rate and span will be longer so you will need more hours in the operation.
On the days an address does not get all the mail delivered they will get 1st Class and parcels delivered. As 1st class now only accounts for circa 700 million items per year then the call rate is modelling significantly less than when you deliver 1st class ,.DSA, 2nd class , D2D etc.
On Saturdays only 1st class and parcels go out by van.
So assumptions can be made hence a method change being deployed.
Only 50% of addresses will get a delivery of all mail each day Monday -Friday. However on the days this happens the workload , call rate and span will be longer so you will need more hours in the operation.
On the days an address does not get all the mail delivered they will get 1st Class and parcels delivered. As 1st class now only accounts for circa 700 million items per year then the call rate is modelling significantly less than when you deliver 1st class ,.DSA, 2nd class , D2D etc.
On Saturdays only 1st class and parcels go out by van.
So assumptions can be made hence a method change being deployed.
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"in theory".
Sounds very much like you've already agreed on the "method".
Sounds very much like you've already agreed on the "method".
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Martin Walsh
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No but we have modelled another number of units and clearly by doing the 36/39 pilots the assumptions will be tested across a number of sites before we know if it works.
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The USO cut hasn't been agreed by anyone.
Or do you know something the rest of us ought to?
Or do you know something the rest of us ought to?
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So you’re agreeing to thousands of job cuts then?Martin Walsh wrote: ↑21 Nov 2024, 22:08No but we have modelled another number of units and clearly by doing the 36/39 pilots the assumptions will be tested across a number of sites before we know if it works.
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Yes.
Which is why he's said they're aiming to increase VR's.
You know, the ones that are barely recognizable from a few years ago.
Which is why he's said they're aiming to increase VR's.
You know, the ones that are barely recognizable from a few years ago.
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Martin Walsh
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Of Com are going to reduce the USO next year there is going to be job losses.
The CWU can stand on the sidelines and watch or it can reduce the impact on jobs , made the walks achievable, improved attendances , Saturdays off, increase full time job , harmonise new entrants terms and conditions, get an above inflation pay rise , achieve a no compulsory redundancies agreement and improve VR terms.
Standing on the sidelines won’t stop the USO change it is happening across the world.
The CWU can stand on the sidelines and watch or it can reduce the impact on jobs , made the walks achievable, improved attendances , Saturdays off, increase full time job , harmonise new entrants terms and conditions, get an above inflation pay rise , achieve a no compulsory redundancies agreement and improve VR terms.
Standing on the sidelines won’t stop the USO change it is happening across the world.
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Dexydog
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Re: CWU LIVE - Postal Special with Dave Ward & Martin Walsh at 5pm
You've not achieved a single one of those in the last few years.
The opposite in fact.
So good luck with that.
The opposite in fact.
So good luck with that.
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Martin Walsh wrote: ↑21 Nov 2024, 22:30
Of Com are going to reduce the USO next year there is going to be job losses.
So I could lose my job next year because of this, last in 1st out as I’m a newbie. Thanks for the heads up, I now know my future is not going to be with RM. It sucks doing the exact same job as the old contract guys for minimum wage. Time to find a new job then.
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So us non drivers will be the first ones out - RM have known for years they want everyone to drive so they could trained everyone to drive like they did years and years agoMartin Walsh wrote: ↑21 Nov 2024, 22:30Of Com are going to reduce the USO next year there is going to be job losses.
The CWU can stand on the sidelines and watch or it can reduce the impact on jobs , made the walks achievable, improved attendances , Saturdays off, increase full time job , harmonise new entrants terms and conditions, get an above inflation pay rise , achieve a no compulsory redundancies agreement and improve VR terms.
Standing on the sidelines won’t stop the USO change it is happening across the world.
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Martin Walsh
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Look there will be no compulsory redundancies so no one will be forced out there will be a job for everyone regardless of whether your a new entrant or a non driver. The union will not agree or support the USO change without this commitment and it cannot work without our support and that of our 100 thousand membership.
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Martin Walsh
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Re: CWU LIVE - Postal Special with Dave Ward & Martin Walsh at 5pm
Look there will be no compulsory redundancies so no one will be forced out there will be a job for everyone regardless of whether your a new entrant or a non driver. The union will not agree or support the USO change without this commitment and it cannot work without our support and that of our 100 thousand membership.