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Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

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postmanpat
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Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by postmanpat »

Someone must have some details of this scheme as Christmas aint too far away?!

I'm not asking about the £200 we receive every year, I'm asking about the peak incentive that will probably be related to the My Performance App?

Any details??
yellowbelly
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by yellowbelly »

When I saw your thread title I thought it was you pushing the deets out!

Not that our office has any chance of achieving it anyway!
Barnacle
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by Barnacle »

postmanpat wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 16:40
Someone must have some details of this scheme as Christmas aint too far away?!

I'm not asking about the £200 we receive every year, I'm asking about the peak incentive that will probably be related to the My Performance App?

Any details??
I doubt there would be an incentive scheme (financial), related to My Performance because not everyone uses a PDA all day so it would be discriminatory.

The only reason they would say there was an incentive scheme related to My Performance, is to get you to click on it. They want you to click on it so that they can claim that you really really want to have your performance monitored 24/7.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
Perseus
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by Perseus »

Performance related bonus wouldn't work even with everyone using a pda as measurable stats vary wildly from one duty to the next. 2-3 times more tracked from one duty to another.
TopperGas
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by TopperGas »

Barnacle wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 17:47
postmanpat wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 16:40
Someone must have some details of this scheme as Christmas aint too far away?!

I'm not asking about the £200 we receive every year, I'm asking about the peak incentive that will probably be related to the My Performance App?

Any details??
I doubt there would be an incentive scheme (financial), related to My Performance because not everyone uses a PDA all day so it would be discriminatory.

The only reason they would say there was an incentive scheme related to My Performance, is to get you to click on it. They want you to click on it so that they can claim that you really really want to have your performance monitored 24/7.
Doesn't every postie used it all day or at least during their duty?
TopperGas
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by TopperGas »

Perseus wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 18:17
Performance related bonus wouldn't work even with everyone using a pda as measurable stats vary wildly from one duty to the next. 2-3 times more tracked from one duty to another.
Pure guesses but how about:

A % for using SISO every working day
A % for X% of Tracked parcels delivered first time
A % for Specials Delivered first time
A % for X% driving score
A % for >X% of idling
A % for 100% of collections completed

I've no idea what's planned but it not impossible My Performance stats won't be used. Personally I'd sooner those used than bonuses given for the whole office and also whole company meeting targets they will never meet.
Barnacle
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by Barnacle »

TopperGas wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 19:17
Barnacle wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 17:47
postmanpat wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 16:40
Someone must have some details of this scheme as Christmas aint too far away?!

I'm not asking about the £200 we receive every year, I'm asking about the peak incentive that will probably be related to the My Performance App?

Any details??
I doubt there would be an incentive scheme (financial), related to My Performance because not everyone uses a PDA all day so it would be discriminatory.

The only reason they would say there was an incentive scheme related to My Performance, is to get you to click on it. They want you to click on it so that they can claim that you really really want to have your performance monitored 24/7.
Doesn't every postie used it all day or at least during their duty?
Every Postie but not every worker. How would you gauge the performance of everyone else?

I don’t want My Performance on the app at all. I think its purpose is only negative for employees.

So the notion of us being encouraged to engage with an app which will one day be used to help sack us, is abhorrent.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
TooManyLoops
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by TooManyLoops »

A manager was trying to explain it to a few of us, wasn't paying much attention tbf but, what I gathered is, 12 points per day = £10

The points for your driving/idle/SISO/doorstep scanning etc

Non-drivers? I dunno how that works
GRS
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by GRS »

What about the vans without Trimble to measure driving stats? Out of 20 odd vehicles at ours only 4 have a Trimble fitted.
Perseus
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by Perseus »

TooManyLoops wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 19:49
A manager was trying to explain it to a few of us, wasn't paying much attention tbf but, what I gathered is, 12 points per day = £10

The points for your driving/idle/SISO/doorstep scanning etc

Non-drivers? I dunno how that works
Your understanding is that there will be a Incentive Scheme based on individual performance?
scotchy1962
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by scotchy1962 »

postmanpat wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 16:40
Someone must have some details of this scheme as Christmas aint too far away?!

I'm not asking about the £200 we receive every year, I'm asking about the peak incentive that will probably be related to the My Performance App?

Any details??
Again someone posting about a possible bonus scheme.
How long have you worked in RM?
Do you remember last xmas?
Do you walk into walls?
If it's yes to any of the last two questions.... i give up.
Last years debacle hasn't stopped people from still trying to get some sort of extra bonus at xmas, why?
There will be o/t a plenty available, so work to all hours and stop trying to get some sort of daft unachievable bonus on the table.
toonshola
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by toonshola »

scotchy1962 wrote:
11 Nov 2024, 05:48
postmanpat wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 16:40
Someone must have some details of this scheme as Christmas aint too far away?!

I'm not asking about the £200 we receive every year, I'm asking about the peak incentive that will probably be related to the My Performance App?

Any details??
Again someone posting about a possible bonus scheme.
How long have you worked in RM?
Do you remember last xmas?
Do you walk into walls?
If it's yes to any of the last two questions.... i give up.
Last years debacle hasn't stopped people from still trying to get some sort of extra bonus at xmas, why?
There will be o/t a plenty available, so work to all hours and stop trying to get some sort of daft unachievable bonus on the table.

Spot on. If there is an extra bonus it’ll be around £200 before tax, hardly life changing and in exchange they will want us to work ourselves into the ground in the lead up to Christmas.
They can keep that money and I’ll try keep what little energy and sanity I have left for Xmas day and Boxing Day with the family.
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by Smoothbackground »

A reasonable and sensible question raised by Postman Pat is met with negativity and shot down in flames by the usual suspects on here.

Thanks for the snippets of info, Toomanyloops. So maybe £50 a week if you reach all targets and attain 12 points. My Trimble is a bit temperamental on wet days and so the safety score sometimes is down to 96 or 97%. What will happen if you gain 10 points and not the full 12? Is it all or nothing?
AlbertHerbertHawkins
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by AlbertHerbertHawkins »

I believe there is going to be an "advent calendar" involved, with chances to win a mug or a christmas jumper. Make of that what you will...
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Christmas Bonus- Peak Incentive Scheme

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Smoothbackground wrote:
11 Nov 2024, 08:49
So maybe £50 a week if you reach all targets and attain 12 points. My Trimble is a bit temperamental on wet days and so the safety score sometimes is down to 96 or 97%. What will happen if you gain 10 points and not the full 12? Is it all or nothing?
It's bound to be all staff at an office reaching the target and getting 12 points. RM know that very few offices would achieve that so they won't have to pay out too much