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Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

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Do you regularly use an wheelie bin as a suitable safe place?

YES
89
46%
NO
106
54%
 
Total votes: 195

richardkhill
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Joined: 10 Oct 2024, 15:37
Gender: Male

Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by richardkhill »

Just completed my first month as a postie with RM :Very Happy

Having worked with a number of different colleagues, across a couple of different walks, I've noticed a varied opinion on using wheelie bins as unofficial safe places for packages & parcels. Some will quite happily use an accessible wheelie bin, whilst others completely rebuff the idea.

I'm curious to know what the general consensus is on here?
30hr Postie
funkflex55
Posts: 713
Joined: 04 Sep 2022, 22:58
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by funkflex55 »

It's out of sight and undercover. Where as a porch it is visible to parcel thieves. But for RM porch is ok and bin is not. Then they are pushing first time delivery on the doorstep app. So yes, bins are fine as long as a card goes in so they retrieve it.
derekm
Posts: 338
Joined: 16 Dec 2010, 22:17
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by derekm »

We are told definitely no. Some might do it but they keep it to themselves.
kazardaimenu
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Joined: 13 Apr 2022, 19:11
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by kazardaimenu »

Never use the waste bin but often use the top of a recycling bin or garden bin for bulky items outside of collection months.
toonshola
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Joined: 29 Jul 2011, 16:31
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by toonshola »

Bins are never an acceptable safe place to leave anything according to Royal Mail. It’s all over the website, app and workplace not to do it. Having said that most people in our office regularly do it and the managers turn a blind eye. I think it is definitely something Royal Mail need to change though, customers don’t mind and I would guess 99% of the time they retrieve the parcel out of the recycling bin later that day. Plus every other courier does it and since it’s royal mails dream to become just another parcel courier then we should follow suit.
claretandblue
Posts: 900
Joined: 01 Aug 2007, 12:14

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by claretandblue »

I will use the cardboard bin, which is only emptied once a month, and I know when the collection is.
SMS1969
Posts: 983
Joined: 28 Jun 2021, 11:36
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by SMS1969 »

I sometimes put one behind a bin down the side of the house, usually behind a closed gate. I never put them in the bin.
scoobydo79
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Joined: 15 May 2011, 19:04
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by scoobydo79 »

No never. After signing for specials probably the daftest thing you could do
SpacePhoenix
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Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
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Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

funkflex55 wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 08:59
It's out of sight and undercover. Where as a porch it is visible to parcel thieves. But for RM porch is ok and bin is not. Then they are pushing first time delivery on the doorstep app. So yes, bins are fine as long as a card goes in so they retrieve it.
If you can gain access to the bin to place a parcel in the bin, then thieves can gain access to the bin to steal the parcel from the bin
funkflex55
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Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by funkflex55 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 10:09
funkflex55 wrote:
10 Nov 2024, 08:59
It's out of sight and undercover. Where as a porch it is visible to parcel thieves. But for RM porch is ok and bin is not. Then they are pushing first time delivery on the doorstep app. So yes, bins are fine as long as a card goes in so they retrieve it.
If you can gain access to the bin to place a parcel in the bin, then thieves can gain access to the bin to steal the parcel from the bin
Yes you're correct. The difference is that there's no visibility in the bin, obviously unless you're seen doing it. The problem is that there aren't really any places that are safe. If we can get access to deliver a thief can get access to steal. So RM needs to either get rid of safe places or accept that a certain percentage will get stolen. They're the ones that are wiping out collection at the office and pushing staff to get rid of stuff first time.
kazardaimenu
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Joined: 13 Apr 2022, 19:11
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by kazardaimenu »

When we had the callers office and no automatic redelivery I took more stuff back to the office but times have changed and if I take something back there’s no guarantee it gets attempted again the next day at this time of year.
sjscfc84
Posts: 16
Joined: 05 Oct 2024, 06:31
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by sjscfc84 »

I suppose it’s the same with storage boxes, people are happy enough for you to leave them there and if we can access them so can thief’s, people even put notes on their door to leave in the storage box.
1617mel
Posts: 172
Joined: 11 Oct 2017, 15:13
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by 1617mel »

When I was on delivery, lucky enough to hold a duty, you tend to build a mutual respect with the people who are customers , many times a customer will arrange with you a place where you may leave their parcel, I.e. through the side gate to back garden area , and into a garden shed,or hut. many other places were agreed upon with customers, most of the time its a common sense decision, managers usually know this procedure will occur during delivery, a grey area! I retired in April 2024, take care out there people x
TooManyLoops
Posts: 135
Joined: 11 Oct 2016, 19:28
Gender: Male

Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by TooManyLoops »

No, and no matter what they request or bellow down their stupid doorbell
Smoothbackground
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Joined: 21 Sep 2023, 20:01
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Re: Do you use wheelie bins as unofficial Safe Places?

Post by Smoothbackground »

Not regularly. I will only do it if explicitly asked and if I deem both the location of the bin and the parcel itself safe enough. I have one customer who keeps an unused wheelie bin in his back garden (open back gate) who likes all packets to go in there, and for me that is safe enough for an Asos or similar package. My assessment of safeplace always has regard to both the suggested location and also as to how valuable(or not) I think the package contents might be. Anything I’m not sure about I will either deliver to a neighbour or bring back.