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Five months until pay rise

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Rommagic
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Five months until pay rise

Post by Rommagic »

Rumours of 2 per cent?.
Shirtbuttons
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by Shirtbuttons »

NI for employers has gone up so they will plead poverty. You might get 2% but they will take away your paid meal relief. Watch this space. :cuppa
derekm
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by derekm »

Whatever is offered they will want what’s left of our T & c,s in return and then try sell it as deal of the century :nana :nana
toonshola
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by toonshola »

We will be lucky to get 2% with Ward and his merry band of grifters and hangers on strolling into the negotiation room.
Peabrain22
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by Peabrain22 »

Yeah the pressures on the hierarchy now to come up with a stronger hourly rate for anyone on the new contract.. so currently we are on £12.70 odd and with the minimum wage at 12.20 very soon something has to change.. being on the new contract we have no door to door supplement and also don't get paid for breaks and finally working sundays for the flat rate sometimes working only 4 hours... it's about time anyone on a new contract is leveled up to those who have been there on the old one and receiving more..so much for every postperson is the same.
TopperGas
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by TopperGas »

Peabrain22 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 11:16
Yeah the pressures on the hierarchy now to come up with a stronger hourly rate for anyone on the new contract.. so currently we are on £12.70 odd and with the minimum wage at 12.20 very soon something has to change.. being on the new contract we have no door to door supplement and also don't get paid for breaks and finally working sundays for the flat rate sometimes working only 4 hours... it's about time anyone on a new contract is leveled up to those who have been there on the old one and receiving more..so much for every postperson is the same.
Nobody gets a door to door supplement? Nobody forced you to accept the job you must have known Sunday's was a flat rate like it tends to be at most employers these days, levelling up is never going to happen, it's far more likely they'll be levelling down, sadly.
abuch1980
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by abuch1980 »

Rommagic wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 06:08
Rumours of 2 per cent?.
With minimum wage going to 12.21 then we will require at 5or6% rise to keep ahead of the minimum wage ! Or else this work will cease to be a well paid Delivery job.
TopperGas
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by TopperGas »

abuch1980 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 11:49
Rommagic wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 06:08
Rumours of 2 per cent?.
With minimum wage going to 12.21 then we will require at 5or6% rise to keep ahead of the minimum wage ! Or else this work will cease to be a well paid Delivery job.
With the 2% increase in NI payments then that's 7/8% increase for a business apparently already losing £1m a day or at best now breaking even?
Peabrain22
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by Peabrain22 »

Anybody at my office who isnt on a new contract gets a weekly supplement.. for door to doors even if there's none one week and maybe 2 the next..
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by SpacePhoenix »

TopperGas wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 11:42
Peabrain22 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 11:16
Yeah the pressures on the hierarchy now to come up with a stronger hourly rate for anyone on the new contract.. so currently we are on £12.70 odd and with the minimum wage at 12.20 very soon something has to change.. being on the new contract we have no door to door supplement and also don't get paid for breaks and finally working sundays for the flat rate sometimes working only 4 hours... it's about time anyone on a new contract is leveled up to those who have been there on the old one and receiving more..so much for every postperson is the same.
Nobody gets a door to door supplement? Nobody forced you to accept the job you must have known Sunday's was a flat rate like it tends to be at most employers these days, levelling up is never going to happen, it's far more likely they'll be levelling down, sadly.
There'll come a point where enough staff on "legacy" contracts will have left that when RM factor in any employment tribunal costs it'll be cheap enough to force anyone on a "legacy" contract onto one of the newer contracts
Rumple
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by Rumple »

Peabrain22 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 12:07
Anybody at my office who isnt on a new contract gets a weekly supplement.. for door to doors even if there's none one week and maybe 2 the next..
No they don’t. The delivery supplement you speak of has nothing to do with D2Ds.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by ted_e_bear »

Peabrain22 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 12:07
Anybody at my office who isnt on a new contract gets a weekly supplement.. for door to doors even if there's none one week and maybe 2 the next..
They actually receive the supplement for sorting IPS, prepping and delivering duties mail, parcels and d2ds,basically for working in a delivery office, it's not just for d2ds that's not true but it seems to be a royal mail myth that refuses to disappear. The delivery supplement was introduced the same time as d2d payments finished, afaik part of the delivery supplement was financed by removing the d2d payment so that's where the thinking came from.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by ted_e_bear »

Shirtbuttons wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 06:23
NI for employers has gone up so they will plead poverty. You might get 2% but they will take away your paid meal relief. Watch this space. :cuppa
I've thought that for a while, surprised they didn't try and go for it in the last pay deal.
Trumanity
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by Trumanity »

Rumple wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 13:04
Peabrain22 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 12:07
Anybody at my office who isnt on a new contract gets a weekly supplement.. for door to doors even if there's none one week and maybe 2 the next..
No they don’t. The delivery supplement you speak of has nothing to do with D2Ds.
Oh No...not this old chestnut again :arrrghhh
Londonsburning
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Re: Five months until pay rise

Post by Londonsburning »

ted_e_bear wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 13:14
Peabrain22 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 12:07
Anybody at my office who isnt on a new contract gets a weekly supplement.. for door to doors even if there's none one week and maybe 2 the next..
They actually receive the supplement for sorting IPS, prepping and delivering duties mail, parcels and d2ds,basically for working in a delivery office, it's not just for d2ds that's not true but it seems to be a royal mail myth that refuses to disappear. The delivery supplement was introduced the same time as d2d payments finished, afaik part of the delivery supplement was financed by removing the d2d payment so that's where the thinking came from.
Yes we had to agree to lose d2d payments as part of whatever 'deal' we signed all those years ago I remember making an extra £130 a week sometimes and that was 15 years ago