I've crunched the numbers, and "Regular" seasonal hours don't work out right

[postslippete]

Why is delivering two days worth of mail suddenly becoming the norm? Surely, after all the changes that have been made and just a list of the top of my head - bigger duties via imposed revisions, less sick pay, more staff on inferior contracts, shorter hours and less staff in the callers offices, increased postage on letters, increased number of parcels etc etc

You don't need to crunch the numbers to suggest that we must be increasing our revenues and reducing overall costs as compared to last year - or are we still losing over a million pounds a day?

[cheerful]

Every office seems to have different daily start and finish times, so the times shown only apply to your own DO? It's odd you work longer days on Tuesday's than Monday's and also Saturday's. Have you discussed your findings with your DOM &/or union rep?

I did some further digging on the regular hours and low season hours. The first printouts had all the part timers getting underpaid. At some point the printouts were replaced with much fairer ones (now all are paid correctly except 25H contracts being underpaid by 8 minutes per week).

I've no idea how many weeks we were all underpaid for.

I'll mention it to our rep next week.

It should be a requirement that all managers do a "Basic Excel" night class.

[Clappedoutpostie]

It should be a requirement that all managers do a "Basic Excel" night class.

Steady on, most days I wonder if they even managed to get dressed by themselves.

[memimo]

I've put the "Regular" seasonal hours into a spreadsheet, and over an average 5 days work week:

Full timers are working 37 hours and 50 seconds.
30 hour contracts are working 30 hours 18 minutes.
27.5 hour contracts are working 27 hours 48 minutes.
25 hour contracts are working 25 hours 10 minutes.

Aren't the "Regular" seasonal hours supposed to be the number of hours on the contract?

Even without doing fancy maths, it's clear that the 27.5H contract should do 5.5H per day (but has extra minutes added on Tue/Sat), and the 25H contract should do 5H per day (but has extra minutes added on Sat).

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I believe that the hours for an office are set by the COM or senior line manager. They seem to vary from office to office rather than being set in stone for everyone, especially with the later start times. I found that this had been happening in my office as well to the part time workers, where we were working 21 minutes extra every week. I went to line manager and union rep and the times have now been changed to be in line with the contract hours per week. Just waiting for the COM to come back to authorise/chase up the over time we worked.

[TopperGas]

I've put the "Regular" seasonal hours into a spreadsheet, and over an average 5 days work week:

Full timers are working 37 hours and 50 seconds.
30 hour contracts are working 30 hours 18 minutes.
27.5 hour contracts are working 27 hours 48 minutes.
25 hour contracts are working 25 hours 10 minutes.

Aren't the "Regular" seasonal hours supposed to be the number of hours on the contract?

Even without doing fancy maths, it's clear that the 27.5H contract should do 5.5H per day (but has extra minutes added on Tue/Sat), and the 25H contract should do 5H per day (but has extra minutes added on Sat).

RMweeklyHours.png

I believe that the hours for an office are set by the COM or senior line manager. They seem to vary from office to office rather than being set in stone for everyone, especially with the later start times. I found that this had been happening in my office as well to the part time workers, where we were working 21 minutes extra every week. I went to line manager and union rep and the times have now been changed to be in line with the contract hours per week. Just waiting for the COM to come back to authorise/chase up the over time we worked.

Probably something senior management told all COM's to do in the hope nobody would ever check the PT hours were correct!! Perhaps this is the scandal the CWU are going to divulge?

[funkflex55]

Every office seems to have different daily start and finish times, so the times shown only apply to your own DO? It's odd you work longer days on Tuesday's than Monday's and also Saturday's. Have you discussed your findings with your DOM &/or union rep?

I did some further digging on the regular hours and low season hours. The first printouts had all the part timers getting underpaid. At some point the printouts were replaced with much fairer ones (now all are paid correctly except 25H contracts being underpaid by 8 minutes per week).

I've no idea how many weeks we were all underpaid for.

I'll mention it to our rep next week.

It should be a requirement that all managers do a "Basic Excel" night class.

Maybe they can get sent an email every Sunday until they do it. Then once they have they can do a class called, how to have normal human interactions.

[Jaggs]

I've put the "Regular" seasonal hours into a spreadsheet, and over an average 5 days work week:

Full timers are working 37 hours and 50 seconds.
30 hour contracts are working 30 hours 18 minutes.
27.5 hour contracts are working 27 hours 48 minutes.
25 hour contracts are working 25 hours 10 minutes.

Aren't the "Regular" seasonal hours supposed to be the number of hours on the contract?

Even without doing fancy maths, it's clear that the 27.5H contract should do 5.5H per day (but has extra minutes added on Tue/Sat), and the 25H contract should do 5H per day (but has extra minutes added on Sat).

RMweeklyHours.png

Have you allowed for the day off rotation in your office? Our offices hours comes out wrong on a daily average basis but once the day off rotation is accounted for it averages out correctly over 4 weeks

[Rve83ndxd]

Full timers are working 37 hours and 50 seconds.

Have you allowed for the day off rotation in your office? Our offices hours comes out wrong on a daily average basis but once the day off rotation is accounted for it averages out correctly over 4 weeks

He has for a 6 week rotation.