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Van retention policy
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geordieboy123
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Van retention policy
Can anyone point me in the right direction to get a copy of the van retention policy?
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tramssirhc
- Posts: 1700
- Joined: 04 Sep 2012, 20:19
- Gender: Male
Re: Van retention policy
There isn't one. If it's still happening then it's the employer responsibility.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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chickenwittle
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- Joined: 15 Nov 2009, 09:43
- Gender: Male
Re: Van retention policy
That all stopped years ago at my office but obviously still goes on elsewhere as I see vans parked up outside houses in the evening in my area.
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claretandblue
- Posts: 900
- Joined: 01 Aug 2007, 12:14
Re: Van retention policy
Apparently there's a form to fill in, a couple of lads at ours take the van home.
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TooManyLoops
- Posts: 135
- Joined: 11 Oct 2016, 19:28
- Gender: Male
Re: Van retention policy
I had van retention from 2014 to 2020. I gave it up in the end
We had to fill and sign a few forms (won't be used outside work hours etc) and they checked where it would be parked overnight
It still happens at our DO, not enough room in the van yard so they offered it out again and some took the offer up (they can't take EVs or hires home)
It probably depends on the DO.
We had to fill and sign a few forms (won't be used outside work hours etc) and they checked where it would be parked overnight
It still happens at our DO, not enough room in the van yard so they offered it out again and some took the offer up (they can't take EVs or hires home)
It probably depends on the DO.
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Mr Rush
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- Joined: 05 Aug 2011, 14:27
- Gender: Male
Re: Van retention policy
There must still be one. They'd never get our gates shut if every van was left at the unit. To think not that long ago all the LDVs could park in the loading bay at the same time and the parking spaces were for the staff.
The machine stops.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Van retention policy
viewtopic.php?p=294718#p294718geordieboy123 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2024, 18:11Can anyone point me in the right direction to get a copy of the van retention policy?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Ozzvaldo
- Posts: 470
- Joined: 15 Jul 2012, 20:35
- Gender: Female
Re: Van retention policy
In my office, the management are on their hands and knees begging us to take our vans home at night.
When we went to P&L years ago, our yard was far too small to accommodate the influx of new vans, but RM paid for permits at a nearby car park to keep them overnight.
Fast forward 14 years, and those vans are gradually being hauled off to the knackers yard to be replaced by hire vehicles. RM don't purchase permits for the replacement vans because they have to specify a registration number for each permit and they can't because our hired vehicles are regularly swapped with other offices or exchanged for different vehicles from the hire company. We haven't had new RM liveried vans for years and it won't be long before we're exclusively using white vans. We no longer have the means to park the vans we need on the premises overnight, and the surrounding streets are all residents only zones.
Whether or not taking hired vehicles home is something that RM should actually be allowing us to do, I've no idea.
When we went to P&L years ago, our yard was far too small to accommodate the influx of new vans, but RM paid for permits at a nearby car park to keep them overnight.
Fast forward 14 years, and those vans are gradually being hauled off to the knackers yard to be replaced by hire vehicles. RM don't purchase permits for the replacement vans because they have to specify a registration number for each permit and they can't because our hired vehicles are regularly swapped with other offices or exchanged for different vehicles from the hire company. We haven't had new RM liveried vans for years and it won't be long before we're exclusively using white vans. We no longer have the means to park the vans we need on the premises overnight, and the surrounding streets are all residents only zones.
Whether or not taking hired vehicles home is something that RM should actually be allowing us to do, I've no idea.
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michael147
- Posts: 82
- Joined: 19 Jul 2007, 22:51
- Location: TURIN
Re: Van retention policy
It is true that it does seem to be largely due to the manager.
I remember about 20 years ago my personal car died on about 30th November.
I lived about 3 miles from the office with very limited transport links (and none early morning or after 18:00).
In those days i was an overtime fiend and as usual we were badly short staffed so i was down to do many hours over the Christmas period.
Leaving very little time to search for a replacement.
I informed the manager at the time but not suggesting or asking anything.
30 minutes later he came over with an Xmas hire van and a log book, saying `there you go, that`s yours for Christmas`.
So i used that for nearly a month (only for RM business) and bought a replacement run around between xmas and new year.
That manager has long since retired but i can think of many who would have been completely incredulous at the idea, he just saw it as an obvious solution to an unexpected problem!
I remember about 20 years ago my personal car died on about 30th November.
I lived about 3 miles from the office with very limited transport links (and none early morning or after 18:00).
In those days i was an overtime fiend and as usual we were badly short staffed so i was down to do many hours over the Christmas period.
Leaving very little time to search for a replacement.
I informed the manager at the time but not suggesting or asking anything.
30 minutes later he came over with an Xmas hire van and a log book, saying `there you go, that`s yours for Christmas`.
So i used that for nearly a month (only for RM business) and bought a replacement run around between xmas and new year.
That manager has long since retired but i can think of many who would have been completely incredulous at the idea, he just saw it as an obvious solution to an unexpected problem!
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barcajr
- Posts: 168
- Joined: 12 Oct 2009, 01:04
- Gender: Male
Re: Van retention policy
Stopped van retention a couple of years ago in my office, the reason given was that too much fuel was being used
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geordieboy123
- Posts: 384
- Joined: 06 Nov 2014, 17:35
- Gender: Female
Re: Van retention policy
Thanks very much matePOSTMAN wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 19:01viewtopic.php?p=294718#p294718geordieboy123 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2024, 18:11Can anyone point me in the right direction to get a copy of the van retention policy?
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TopperGas
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- Gender: Male
Re: Van retention policy
I was told hire vans couldn't be used for retention as the hire co's insurance doesn't cover it and as there's no Trimble's fitter no way of keeping any checks on what the van is being used for after work.Ozzvaldo wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 20:00In my office, the management are on their hands and knees begging us to take our vans home at night.
When we went to P&L years ago, our yard was far too small to accommodate the influx of new vans, but RM paid for permits at a nearby car park to keep them overnight.
Fast forward 14 years, and those vans are gradually being hauled off to the knackers yard to be replaced by hire vehicles. RM don't purchase permits for the replacement vans because they have to specify a registration number for each permit and they can't because our hired vehicles are regularly swapped with other offices or exchanged for different vehicles from the hire company. We haven't had new RM liveried vans for years and it won't be long before we're exclusively using white vans. We no longer have the means to park the vans we need on the premises overnight, and the surrounding streets are all residents only zones.
Whether or not taking hired vehicles home is something that RM should actually be allowing us to do, I've no idea.
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Ozzvaldo
- Posts: 470
- Joined: 15 Jul 2012, 20:35
- Gender: Female
Re: Van retention policy
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this was true and our management were conveniently ignoring it and telling us that it's OK.TopperGas wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 22:28I was told hire vans couldn't be used for retention as the hire co's insurance doesn't cover it and as there's no Trimble's fitter no way of keeping any checks on what the van is being used for after work.Ozzvaldo wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 20:00In my office, the management are on their hands and knees begging us to take our vans home at night.
When we went to P&L years ago, our yard was far too small to accommodate the influx of new vans, but RM paid for permits at a nearby car park to keep them overnight.
Fast forward 14 years, and those vans are gradually being hauled off to the knackers yard to be replaced by hire vehicles. RM don't purchase permits for the replacement vans because they have to specify a registration number for each permit and they can't because our hired vehicles are regularly swapped with other offices or exchanged for different vehicles from the hire company. We haven't had new RM liveried vans for years and it won't be long before we're exclusively using white vans. We no longer have the means to park the vans we need on the premises overnight, and the surrounding streets are all residents only zones.
Whether or not taking hired vehicles home is something that RM should actually be allowing us to do, I've no idea.
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Smoothbackground
- Posts: 1263
- Joined: 21 Sep 2023, 20:01
- Gender: Female
Re: Van retention policy
Like most if not all commercial hirers, RM will hire the vehicles in on a “bare hire” basis, ie, without insurance. The hire vehicles are covered under RM’s own fleet insurance at all times.
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Spedley
- Posts: 1209
- Joined: 16 Jul 2007, 17:32
- Location: Warwickshire
Re: Van retention policy
I take a van home, not enough space at work. Have done for years. Had to supply photos etc of where it would be kept.
I'd happily charge an EV at home too if they reimbursed me for it. Would need some kind of logger in the van but no way is there enough room at work for EV charging and I very much doubt the local power grid could supply enough power anyway.
I usually do less than 200 miles per week but with lots of start/stops and town driving. An EV woupd make a lot of sense.
I'd happily charge an EV at home too if they reimbursed me for it. Would need some kind of logger in the van but no way is there enough room at work for EV charging and I very much doubt the local power grid could supply enough power anyway.
I usually do less than 200 miles per week but with lots of start/stops and town driving. An EV woupd make a lot of sense.