In my DO's Specials always take priority, although attempting to get them all delivered by 1.00pm/1:30pm seems a thing of the past, clearly a Tracked letter will always take priority over anything non Tracked, apart from if it's a large parcel which will get in everybody's way in the DO if it's not delivered, although anything that big is usually Tracked anyway.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 18:22If you have a Special Delivery letter or a Tracked packet, which takes priority?
If you have a Tracked letter and a non Tracked packet which takes priority.
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TopperGas
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SpacePhoenix
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In MCs large are normally just about all Tracked as well.TopperGas wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 19:40In my DO's Specials always take priority, although attempting to get them all delivered by 1.00pm/1:30pm seems a thing of the past, clearly a Tracked letter will always take priority over anything non Tracked, apart from if it's a large parcel which will get in everybody's way in the DO if it's not delivered, although anything that big is usually Tracked anyway.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 18:22If you have a Special Delivery letter or a Tracked packet, which takes priority?
If you have a Tracked letter and a non Tracked packet which takes priority.
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Smoothbackground
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SpacePhoenix, what is Delivered Scanned 48(?)? Is it a variant of Tracked? We get quite a few big Amazon boxes that have this on them but can’t recall seeing it on any other customers’ boxes. Is it a special deal just for Amazon?SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 19:42In MCs large are normally just about all Tracked as well.TopperGas wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 19:40In my DO's Specials always take priority, although attempting to get them all delivered by 1.00pm/1:30pm seems a thing of the past, clearly a Tracked letter will always take priority over anything non Tracked, apart from if it's a large parcel which will get in everybody's way in the DO if it's not delivered, although anything that big is usually Tracked anyway.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 18:22If you have a Special Delivery letter or a Tracked packet, which takes priority?
If you have a Tracked letter and a non Tracked packet which takes priority.
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SpacePhoenix
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Not seen them before. I believe that "Delivered Scanned" is only used by Amazon. Don't recall ever seeing any other companies using it.Smoothbackground wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 21:13SpacePhoenix, what is Delivered Scanned 48(?)? Is it a variant of Tracked? We get quite a few big Amazon boxes that have this on them but can’t recall seeing it on any other customers’ boxes. Is it a special deal just for Amazon?SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 19:42In MCs large are normally just about all Tracked as well.TopperGas wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 19:40In my DO's Specials always take priority, although attempting to get them all delivered by 1.00pm/1:30pm seems a thing of the past, clearly a Tracked letter will always take priority over anything non Tracked, apart from if it's a large parcel which will get in everybody's way in the DO if it's not delivered, although anything that big is usually Tracked anyway.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 18:22If you have a Special Delivery letter or a Tracked packet, which takes priority?
If you have a Tracked letter and a non Tracked packet which takes priority.
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Clappedoutpostie
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It’s just a 2nd class parcel with that written on the label.
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Smoothbackground
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Thanks SP. I had 65 identical - and very large - Amazon boxes yesterday all going to the same place, with 59 of them being Tracked and the other this Delivery Scanned 48. I had it the day before too (and the day before!). The label looks almost identical to a T48 label except the writing (much smaller than usual) says “Delivered Scanned 48”.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 21:46Not seen them before. I believe that "Delivered Scanned" is only used by Amazon. Don't recall ever seeing any other companies using it.Smoothbackground wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 21:13SpacePhoenix, what is Delivered Scanned 48(?)? Is it a variant of Tracked? We get quite a few big Amazon boxes that have this on them but can’t recall seeing it on any other customers’ boxes. Is it a special deal just for Amazon?SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 19:42In MCs large are normally just about all Tracked as well.TopperGas wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 19:40In my DO's Specials always take priority, although attempting to get them all delivered by 1.00pm/1:30pm seems a thing of the past, clearly a Tracked letter will always take priority over anything non Tracked, apart from if it's a large parcel which will get in everybody's way in the DO if it's not delivered, although anything that big is usually Tracked anyway.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 18:22If you have a Special Delivery letter or a Tracked packet, which takes priority?
If you have a Tracked letter and a non Tracked packet which takes priority.
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Barnacle
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Yes, that’s all I think it means.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 22:00It’s just a 2nd class parcel with that written on the label.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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ted_e_bear
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Yeah an Amazon thing, they started years ago just a confirmation of delivery, they must be logged as they go through the system though as they carry a bollocking if you don't scan one, wonder why they still use them I'd have thought they'd use tracked instead these days, I bet they pay close to f**k all for tracked maybe it's even less for theseBarnacle wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 05:50Yes, that’s all I think it means.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 22:00It’s just a 2nd class parcel with that written on the label.
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SpacePhoenix
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It's only been in the last couple of months that the inward MC has scanned all parcels. Before then it was only SDs and Tracked.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 06:16Yeah an Amazon thing, they started years ago just a confirmation of delivery, they must be logged as they go through the system though as they carry a bollocking if you don't scan one, wonder why they still use them I'd have thought they'd use tracked instead these days, I bet they pay close to f**k all for tracked maybe it's even less for theseBarnacle wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 05:50Yes, that’s all I think it means.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 22:00It’s just a 2nd class parcel with that written on the label.
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Barnacle
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The volume of data being sent to cloud storage is astronomical. I’d love to know how much they’re shelling out for that every month.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 07:18It's only been in the last couple of months that the inward MC has scanned all parcels. Before then it was only SDs and Tracked.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 06:16Yeah an Amazon thing, they started years ago just a confirmation of delivery, they must be logged as they go through the system though as they carry a bollocking if you don't scan one, wonder why they still use them I'd have thought they'd use tracked instead these days, I bet they pay close to f**k all for tracked maybe it's even less for theseBarnacle wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 05:50Yes, that’s all I think it means.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑30 Aug 2024, 22:00It’s just a 2nd class parcel with that written on the label.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Mr Rush
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Time for speculation!
Last time I looked at tracking the photos were fairly small ~150KB JPEGs. Let's say 50 packets per duty of which 75% required Photo Capture. That's 5.49MB a day. There are around 57,000 duties in the country, so that yields potentially 305.77GB a day. If those are retained for, say, 28 days then that builds to 8.36TB. Sounds huge but 59 million images a month would fit on a single hard drive.
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Barnacle
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You have to add to that, multiple scanning of a single item. So the 1.4b parcels are scanned several times prior to the delivery scan. All that info is sent to cloud storage. So is all the data they are taking from Trimbles and also all the data they are gathering in the personal performance part of the pda app.Mr Rush wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 20:45Time for speculation!![]()
Last time I looked at tracking the photos were fairly small ~150KB JPEGs. Let's say 50 packets per duty of which 75% required Photo Capture. That's 5.49MB a day. There are around 57,000 duties in the country, so that yields potentially 305.77GB a day. If those are retained for, say, 28 days then that builds to 8.36TB. Sounds huge but 59 million images a month would fit on a single hard drive.
They also have that Workplace nonsense and all of your data which sits in the People App whether you choose to use it or not.
The majority of the data they are accumulating is not deleted after 28 days or ever.
I’d love to know how much they’re using and how much it is costing.
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postslippete
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Mr Rush wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 20:45
Time for speculation!![]()
Last time I looked at tracking the photos were fairly small ~150KB JPEGs. Let's say 50 packets per duty of which 75% required Photo Capture. That's 5.49MB a day. There are around 57,000 duties in the country, so that yields potentially 305.77GB a day. If those are retained for, say, 28 days then that builds to 8.36TB. Sounds huge but 59 million images a month would fit on a single hard drive.
Cloud storage is actually quite cheap. Google One are offering cloud storage of 2TB at £20 whereas IDrive are offering 10TB for around £4 for the first year and £76 per year thereafter.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Barnacle
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That’s not what RM or any other very large business which uses cloud storage every day is paying though is it? Be hilarious if it was as Mickey Mouse as that but I doubt it.postslippete wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 22:53Mr Rush wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 20:45
Time for speculation!![]()
Last time I looked at tracking the photos were fairly small ~150KB JPEGs. Let's say 50 packets per duty of which 75% required Photo Capture. That's 5.49MB a day. There are around 57,000 duties in the country, so that yields potentially 305.77GB a day. If those are retained for, say, 28 days then that builds to 8.36TB. Sounds huge but 59 million images a month would fit on a single hard drive.
Cloud storage is actually quite cheap. Google One are offering cloud storage of 2TB at £20 whereas IDrive are offering 10TB for around £4 for the first year and £76 per year thereafter.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Basildon Bond
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If RM used something like AWS (Amazon Web Services) it's all charged around pennies per GB (gigabyte). However, there are not only storage charges.
AWS charges for things like PUT, POST, and LIST requests etc. That's charges for access like uploading, downloading, speed of searching/ retrieving data, etc. Again pennies per GB.
Hence it's not just the size of the image times the number of images. Depending on what the system needs to do with the image - once in "the cloud" the price jumps.
It's not just images though. If RM are uploading data about tracked items etc. (and stuff like is the PDA standing around and not moving :o!) - along with the image - and getting calculations on that data (getting it back, adding, copying, standard deviation on the slow posties in a region, etc. etc.) the price could add up quickly.
AWS charges for things like PUT, POST, and LIST requests etc. That's charges for access like uploading, downloading, speed of searching/ retrieving data, etc. Again pennies per GB.
Hence it's not just the size of the image times the number of images. Depending on what the system needs to do with the image - once in "the cloud" the price jumps.
It's not just images though. If RM are uploading data about tracked items etc. (and stuff like is the PDA standing around and not moving :o!) - along with the image - and getting calculations on that data (getting it back, adding, copying, standard deviation on the slow posties in a region, etc. etc.) the price could add up quickly.