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Delivery 2.0

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claretandblue
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by claretandblue »

Barnacle wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 12:22
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 11:53
We are no longer going to using delivery 2.0 for our revision, but they are still going to double slot every frame "to make more space" even though we are losing the big parcels. 5 hour delivery spans, 6 loops per walk, to be done by trolleys.
Does that really mean that those loops are double what they had previously been? So 40mins ish instead of 20mins?
The loops are already 40 mins so god knows how long they'll be afterwards :crazy:
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Delivery 2.0

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claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 11:53
We are no longer going to using delivery 2.0 for our revision,
Aren't RM now bringing delivery 2.0 into every DO?
That was originally the plan, but ours goes live next month, no delivery 2.0.
I wonder if there's any updates to all the sequencing sort plans on the machines to be rolled out. Wouldn't surprise me that if there are, they'll all be based on delivery 2.0
claretandblue
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Re: Delivery 2.0

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 15:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 11:53
We are no longer going to using delivery 2.0 for our revision,
Aren't RM now bringing delivery 2.0 into every DO?
That was originally the plan, but ours goes live next month, no delivery 2.0.
I wonder if there's any updates to all the sequencing sort plans on the machines to be rolled out. Wouldn't surprise me that if there are, they'll all be based on delivery 2.0
We don't have the room/layout for 1 massive frame.
Jefferson Starfish
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by Jefferson Starfish »

claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 15:12
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 15:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 11:53
We are no longer going to using delivery 2.0 for our revision,
Aren't RM now bringing delivery 2.0 into every DO?
That was originally the plan, but ours goes live next month, no delivery 2.0.
I wonder if there's any updates to all the sequencing sort plans on the machines to be rolled out. Wouldn't surprise me that if there are, they'll all be based on delivery 2.0
We don't have the room/layout for 1 massive frame.
Surely they already knew that?
claretandblue
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by claretandblue »

Jefferson Starfish wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 16:20
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 15:12
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 15:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 11:53
We are no longer going to using delivery 2.0 for our revision,
Aren't RM now bringing delivery 2.0 into every DO?
That was originally the plan, but ours goes live next month, no delivery 2.0.
I wonder if there's any updates to all the sequencing sort plans on the machines to be rolled out. Wouldn't surprise me that if there are, they'll all be based on delivery 2.0
We don't have the room/layout for 1 massive frame.
Surely they already knew that?
This is royal mail we are talking about ...
A2B
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Re: Delivery 2.0

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 11:53
We are no longer going to using delivery 2.0 for our revision,
Aren't RM now bringing delivery 2.0 into every DO?
Trial abandoned before it started in an office close to us :left:
postslippete
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by postslippete »

Last time we had our revision they made all the loops bigger so that the duty only had 6 loops. The duties all had double slots and extra "wings" bolted on their frames.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Delivery 2.0

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It'll be interesting to see if the number of walks in the sequencing batches changes much over the next few weeks. A good while back now one batch suddenly had half the number of walks, with no increase in walks on other batches for the same DO
Barnacle
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by Barnacle »

claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 15:12
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 15:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 13:11
claretandblue wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 11:53
We are no longer going to using delivery 2.0 for our revision,
Aren't RM now bringing delivery 2.0 into every DO?
That was originally the plan, but ours goes live next month, no delivery 2.0.
I wonder if there's any updates to all the sequencing sort plans on the machines to be rolled out. Wouldn't surprise me that if there are, they'll all be based on delivery 2.0
We don't have the room/layout for 1 massive frame.
There is no plan (anymore) to roll it out in every office in the near future. Doesn’t mean they won’t power ahead next year though 🙄
As it stands there are offices that are going to be converted to 2.0 but with adaptations- because there are blindingly obvious flaws with the idea- so the original idea was no wings. Wings are back! Also, with a continuous frame, where is the room for packets? Not enough above and nowhere for a York.

Also, the two main aims of 2.0 were, to make space for oodles of parcels and to save money. Why they thought it would save money I don’t know but anyway, it isn’t saving money. Who knew?!!

So it is fallling apart as it goes along. It will just take a brave higher up to admit it is a failure to end it.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
oypostie
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by oypostie »

and to save money
I think the savings were from the next stage where the computer would spit out a list of what you could do each day i.e. glorified lapsing. Quiet day...have another loop :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
Mr Rush
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by Mr Rush »

Barnacle wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 18:02
So it is fallling apart as it goes along. It will just take a brave higher up to admit it is a failure to end it.
Lower down will softly roll back elements to yield Delivery 1.5, while higher up will be blissfully unaware and reporting to even higher up how great Delivery 2.0 is. No-one will ever admit to the disjunct between plan and reality, and the gap widens more and more until a Sovietesque collapse occurs.
The machine stops.
Barnacle
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by Barnacle »

Bounced_Czech wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 18:59
Mr Rush wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 18:49
Barnacle wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 18:02
So it is fallling apart as it goes along. It will just take a brave higher up to admit it is a failure to end it.
Lower down will softly roll back elements to yield Delivery 1.5, while higher up will be blissfully unaware and reporting to even higher up how great Delivery 2.0 is. No-one will ever admit to the disjunct between plan and reality, and the gap widens more and more until a Sovietesque collapse occurs.
It's already there. RMs whole setup is built and completely relies on utter lies now.
On that note, I wonder if Thompson thought he was telling the truth when he said, ‘We do not prioritise parcels over letters’. He might not have known that relating a bonus to the delivery of tracked resulted in managers prioritising tracked, because they’d lie about clearing.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
claretandblue
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by claretandblue »

Barnacle wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 19:43
Bounced_Czech wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 18:59
Mr Rush wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 18:49
Barnacle wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 18:02
So it is fallling apart as it goes along. It will just take a brave higher up to admit it is a failure to end it.
Lower down will softly roll back elements to yield Delivery 1.5, while higher up will be blissfully unaware and reporting to even higher up how great Delivery 2.0 is. No-one will ever admit to the disjunct between plan and reality, and the gap widens more and more until a Sovietesque collapse occurs.
It's already there. RMs whole setup is built and completely relies on utter lies now.
On that note, I wonder if Thompson thought he was telling the truth when he said, ‘We do not prioritise parcels over letters’. He might not have known that relating a bonus to the delivery of tracked resulted in managers prioritising tracked, because they’d lie about clearing.
Every day when we are told to prioritise tracked we ask for it in writing, haven't had it yet for some strange reason 🤔
Mr Rush
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by Mr Rush »

Barnacle wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 19:43
On that note, I wonder if Thompson thought he was telling the truth when he said, ‘We do not prioritise parcels over letters’. He might not have known that relating a bonus to the delivery of tracked resulted in managers prioritising tracked, because they’d lie about clearing.
Simon wasn't so stupid that he isn't familiar with the concept of perverse incentives.
The machine stops.
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Re: Delivery 2.0

Post by clashcityrocker »

Barnacle wrote:
29 Aug 2024, 19:43

On that note, I wonder if Thompson thought he was telling the truth when he said, ‘We do not prioritise parcels over letters’
If you have a Special Delivery letter or a Tracked packet, which takes priority?
If you have a Tracked letter and a non Tracked packet which takes priority.
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