Seasonal hours

[worktotime]

can anybody give me some advice on this as i cant find anything in the agreement regarding posties on sick , so a postie is on long term sick at the moment and receiving 37 hrs pay which is fine , and the company started the 35 hour week on the 17th June for 11 weeks ( 22 hours ) of which 6 weeks ( 12 hours ) was being paid back from when we worked 39 hours at xmas 2023 and the other 5 weeks ( 10 hours ) which we would pay them back to work 39 hrs at xmas 2024 , so posties that are working 35 hour weeks are receiving there 2 hours a week back for both and being paid 37 hours , so what if you are on sick so you are not receiving or received them hours back ? so would the company owe them the 12 hours for last year and then they would not be expected to work 39 hours this xmas 2024 as well unless they are paid to do so , i have asked the manager he doesnt know i have contacted hr and never got a reply back . any senior reps got the answer . thanks

[worktotime]

so im guessing that non of the cwu reps have a clue about an agreement they put forward to there members to accept

[Mr Rush]

so im guessing that non of the cwu reps have a clue about an agreement they put forward to there members to accept

I'm not a rep, but I had a horrible flashback to sitting a maths exam when I read through your query. Like the issue of annual leave deductions last year, the whole thing was rolled out before anyone had thought through all the potential complications.

[pieoftheday]

can anybody give me some advice on this as i cant find anything in the agreement regarding posties on sick , so a postie is on long term sick at the moment and receiving 37 hrs pay which is fine , and the company started the 35 hour week on the 17th June for 11 weeks ( 22 hours ) of which 6 weeks ( 12 hours ) was being paid back from when we worked 39 hours at xmas 2023 and the other 5 weeks ( 10 hours ) which we would pay them back to work 39 hrs at xmas 2024 , so posties that are working 35 hour weeks are receiving there 2 hours a week back for both and being paid 37 hours , so what if you are on sick so you are not receiving or received them hours back ? so would the company owe them the 12 hours for last year and then they would not be expected to work 39 hours this xmas 2024 as well unless they are paid to do so , i have asked the manager he doesnt know i have contacted hr and never got a reply back . any senior reps got the answer . thanks

If you're on a 37hr contract you get paid for 37hrs whether you're on the sick or not, the 35hrs in summer and 39hrs in winter dosnt come into it

[pieoftheday]

can anybody give me some advice on this as i cant find anything in the agreement regarding posties on sick , so a postie is on long term sick at the moment and receiving 37 hrs pay which is fine , and the company started the 35 hour week on the 17th June for 11 weeks ( 22 hours ) of which 6 weeks ( 12 hours ) was being paid back from when we worked 39 hours at xmas 2023 and the other 5 weeks ( 10 hours ) which we would pay them back to work 39 hrs at xmas 2024 , so posties that are working 35 hour weeks are receiving there 2 hours a week back for both and being paid 37 hours , so what if you are on sick so you are not receiving or received them hours back ? so would the company owe them the 12 hours for last year and then they would not be expected to work 39 hours this xmas 2024 as well unless they are paid to do so , i have asked the manager he doesnt know i have contacted hr and never got a reply back . any senior reps got the answer . thanks

If you're on a 37hr contract you get paid for 37hrs whether you're on the sick or not, the 35hrs in summer and 39hrs in winter dosnt / shouldnt come into it. So someone on a 37hr contract gets paid 37hrs whether they're doing 35hrs or 39hrs. Obviously if you're on sick over 6 months then you go onto half pay.

[worktotime]

can anybody give me some advice on this as i cant find anything in the agreement regarding posties on sick , so a postie is on long term sick at the moment and receiving 37 hrs pay which is fine , and the company started the 35 hour week on the 17th June for 11 weeks ( 22 hours ) of which 6 weeks ( 12 hours ) was being paid back from when we worked 39 hours at xmas 2023 and the other 5 weeks ( 10 hours ) which we would pay them back to work 39 hrs at xmas 2024 , so posties that are working 35 hour weeks are receiving there 2 hours a week back for both and being paid 37 hours , so what if you are on sick so you are not receiving or received them hours back ? so would the company owe them the 12 hours for last year and then they would not be expected to work 39 hours this xmas 2024 as well unless they are paid to do so , i have asked the manager he doesnt know i have contacted hr and never got a reply back . any senior reps got the answer . thanks

If you're on a 37hr contract you get paid for 37hrs whether you're on the sick or not, the 35hrs in summer and 39hrs in winter dosnt come into it

so when would they be paid or given back the 12 hours they are OWED from xmas 23 and then they would not be expected to start early and work the 10 hours for free this xmas coming as they have not had those hours back , so yes it has a lot to do with it.

[worktotime]

so im guessing that non of the cwu reps have a clue about an agreement they put forward to there members to accept

I'm not a rep, but I had a horrible flashback to sitting a maths exam when I read through your query. Like the issue of annual leave deductions last year, the whole thing was rolled out before anyone had thought through all the potential complications.

but do you understand my point as the cwu and the company agreed to pay posties the 6 weeks back they owed by working 35 hrs and paying then for 37 hrs and then another 5 weeks so you will work 39 hrs and be paid 37 hrs , or is it just me

[pieoftheday]

so im guessing that non of the cwu reps have a clue about an agreement they put forward to there members to accept

I'm not a rep, but I had a horrible flashback to sitting a maths exam when I read through your query. Like the issue of annual leave deductions last year, the whole thing was rolled out before anyone had thought through all the potential complications.

but do you understand my point as the cwu and the company agreed to pay posties the 6 weeks back they owed by working 35 hrs and paying then for 37 hrs and then another 5 weeks so you will work 39 hrs and be paid 37 hrs , or is it just me

Has your weekly wage gone up and down with seasonal variation?

[worktotime]

the pay is 37 hrs whilst on sick , so will you be working 35 hrs for 11 weeks for 37 hrs pay ?

[pieoftheday]

the pay is 37 hrs whilst on sick , so will you be working 35 hrs for 11 weeks for 37 hrs pay ?

Yes . If you are on 37hr contract, all seasonal variations are paid at 37hrs. I think there was a bit of a cock up with the 39hrs earlier but this has been adjusted via the 35hrs,

[worktotime]

the only cock up was annual leave when they was taken hours that they shouldnt of , im on about the hours they owe posties from last year 12 hrs which you have had back by working 35 hrs and being paid 37 hrs so you have had your hours back for that , and you have had another10 hours so you will be working 39 hrs at xmas for 37 hrs . do you get what im saying .

[pieoftheday]

the only cock up was annual leave when they was taken hours that they shouldnt of , im on about the hours they owe posties from last year 12 hrs which you have had back by working 35 hrs and being paid 37 hrs so you have had your hours back for that , and you have had another10 hours so you will be working 39 hrs at xmas for 37 hrs . do you get what im saying .

Yes I get you, it all balances out over 12 months, dont get me wrong it's a pain, but it does . Think about your weekly hrs,who works 37hrs dead every week? Nobody, it balances out over 6 weeks or whatever you do.even the annual leave thing shouldnt have affected anyone, if you had a 'week' booked you got a 'week' if you had 7/8 hours that was reduced you would have still got a full day off .

[worktotime]

getting them hours back will not balance out and posties that are on long term sick for these 11 weeks will not get them hours back , anyway we will see if its right or not .

[pieoftheday]

getting them hours back will not balance out and posties that are on long term sick for these 11 weeks will not get them hours back , anyway we will see if its right or not .

Are you expecting to be 'paid back' in money?