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Comparable market sector pay.

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Gavintott
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Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Gavintott »

Royal mail claims to pay 10% above the market average in our sector. I was just wondering what sector that would be, so I can go about making some comparisons!

I asked my union rep, and he said we were in the Communications Sector... So what roles at other companies would be comparable?
Duesouth
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Duesouth »

I know that UPS pay around £15 an hour, Mon to Fri, Saturday is voluntary and the pay is even more than during the week.

Once upon a time we used to get time and a half on a Saturday and double on a Sunday. Your making less now than you did 20 years ago.

In real terms with inflation over the past 20 years the minimum wage should be about £15 or even more.
Celtic warrior
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Celtic warrior »

We're now at least 10% LESS in pay as our agency counterparts doing the same job now......
kazardaimenu
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by kazardaimenu »

The new contracts are basically on 10% more than minimum wage. Not sure what other companies pay but it’s probably a bit more than minimum.
LouBarlow
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by LouBarlow »

Celtic warrior wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 19:12
We're now at least 10% LESS in pay as our agency counterparts doing the same job now......
This is hilarious. They don’t get holiday pay, our pension, our payments for d2d and other legacy payments, have to work sundays and have no job security. Why aren’t you working for these agencies? :hmmmm
Barnacle
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Barnacle »

Gavintott wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 17:31
Royal mail claims to pay 10% above the market average in our sector. I was just wondering what sector that would be, so I can go about making some comparisons!

I asked my union rep, and he said we were in the Communications Sector... So what roles at other companies would be comparable?
It’s not really just about pay though is it.

We are provided with a monumental amount of uniform including footwear. Still waiting for my RM issue pants.

Also, we use a work van which saves our own vehicles.

So we can’t compare ourselves with Evri wages. DPD possibly because of the uniform and the van, but even then we’re not doing the same job, just similar.

UPS, if that is the brown van that screeches around, are too rare a sight to bother with a comparison.
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Gavintott
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Gavintott »

LouBarlow wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 19:30
Celtic warrior wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 19:12
We're now at least 10% LESS in pay as our agency counterparts doing the same job now......
This is hilarious. They don’t get holiday pay, our pension, our payments for d2d and other legacy payments, have to work sundays and have no job security. Why aren’t you working for these agencies? :hmmmm no
Agency staff do get holiday pay, actually, and most will be enrolled on to a nest pension scheme, as it is a legal requirement now for all employers. -I think you are mistaking agency staff for self employed drivers such as DPD, or Amazon etc.

Personally speaking, I am on a new 35hr contract with Royal Mail. No d2d payments, no legacy payments, and my contract states that I will need to work some Sundays (not that I have yet). My hourly rate is 12.58, which is pretty s**t tbf.
Shirtbuttons
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Shirtbuttons »

I really don’t know how true this is but a neighbour works for another courier and tells me he averages £2000 a month take home for mon -Fri 7am to 3 pm
LouBarlow
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by LouBarlow »

Shirtbuttons wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 20:05
I really don’t know how true this is but a neighbour works for another courier and tells me he averages £2000 a month take home for mon -Fri 7am to 3 pm
definitely true.
Gavintott
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Gavintott »

LouBarlow wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 20:45
Shirtbuttons wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 20:05
I really don’t know how true this is but a neighbour works for another courier and tells me he averages £2000 a month take home for mon -Fri 7am to 3 pm
definitely true.
About the same as a new postie doing 40hrs per week then.
rubberbond
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by rubberbond »

Gavintott wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 19:50
LouBarlow wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 19:30
Celtic warrior wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 19:12
We're now at least 10% LESS in pay as our agency counterparts doing the same job now......
This is hilarious. They don’t get holiday pay, our pension, our payments for d2d and other legacy payments, have to work sundays and have no job security. Why aren’t you working for these agencies? :hmmmm no
Agency staff do get holiday pay, actually, and most will be enrolled on to a nest pension scheme, as it is a legal requirement now for all employers. -I think you are mistaking agency staff for self employed drivers such as DPD, or Amazon etc.

Personally speaking, I am on a new 35hr contract with Royal Mail. No d2d payments, no legacy payments, and my contract states that I will need to work some Sundays (not that I have yet). My hourly rate is 12.58, which is pretty s**t tbf.
Which begs the question, why did you join and why do you stay.
Jpro747
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Jpro747 »

This job has long had its day far better options out there.
Tman
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Tman »

Say some then, as I'm sure the OP would like to know.
Smoothbackground
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by Smoothbackground »

Bounced_Czech wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 14:25
Gavintott wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 21:10
LouBarlow wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 20:45
Shirtbuttons wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 20:05
I really don’t know how true this is but a neighbour works for another courier and tells me he averages £2000 a month take home for mon -Fri 7am to 3 pm
definitely true.
About the same as a new postie doing 40hrs per week then.
A new start has a take home pay of £500 a week?? :shock:
It’s actually more than £500 take-home for those on a 40-hour DPR contract - roughly £520 clear pw. £650 pw take-home is easily achievable with a bit of OT.
kazardaimenu
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Re: Comparable market sector pay.

Post by kazardaimenu »

Plenty of new starters making a swift exit at our place now. They’ve seen enough.