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A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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Barnacle
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by Barnacle »

milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by milly »

Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:51
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
Does it upset you when people from immigrant backgrounds don't vote Labour?
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by Barnacle »

milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:03
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:51
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
Does it upset you when people from immigrant backgrounds don't vote Labour?
No.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by milly »

Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:07
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:03
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:51
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
Does it upset you when people from immigrant backgrounds don't vote Labour?
No.
Is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by Barnacle »

milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:11
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:07
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:03
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:51
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
Does it upset you when people from immigrant backgrounds don't vote Labour?
No.
Is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
Alcoholics pay attention to news of other alcoholics and how much they drink and reassure themselves that they aren’t an alcoholic because they don’t drink like those people. Just saying.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by milly »

Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:21
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:11
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:07
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:03
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:51
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
Does it upset you when people from immigrant backgrounds don't vote Labour?
No.
Is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
Alcoholics pay attention to news of other alcoholics and how much they drink and reassure themselves that they aren’t an alcoholic because they don’t drink like those people. Just saying.
You ought to be a Politician, you find it impossible to answer simple questions.
I will ask one last time, is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by LouBarlow »

milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:24
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:21
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:11
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:07
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:03
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:51
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
Does it upset you when people from immigrant backgrounds don't vote Labour?
No.
Is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
Alcoholics pay attention to news of other alcoholics and how much they drink and reassure themselves that they aren’t an alcoholic because they don’t drink like those people. Just saying.
You ought to be a Politician, you find it impossible to answer simple questions.
I will ask one last time, is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
Like Sunak he is worse. His parents migrating here has been a success but heaven forbid anyone else looking to come to this country should be given the same opportunity. I believe the phrase is ‘f**k you got mine’.
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by Tman »

I believe the phrase is "same tired old tropes".
Still, only five days to go now until that Brave New World..
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by milly »

LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:32
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:24
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:21
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:11
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:07
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:03
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:51
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
Does it upset you when people from immigrant backgrounds don't vote Labour?
No.
Is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
Alcoholics pay attention to news of other alcoholics and how much they drink and reassure themselves that they aren’t an alcoholic because they don’t drink like those people. Just saying.
You ought to be a Politician, you find it impossible to answer simple questions.
I will ask one last time, is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
Like Sunak he is worse. His parents migrating here has been a success but heaven forbid anyone else looking to come to this country should be given the same opportunity. I believe the phrase is ‘f**k you got mine’.
I've no idea what that word salad even means :roll: .
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by LouBarlow »

milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:52
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:32
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:24
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:21
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:11
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:07
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:03
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:51
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:38
milly wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 20:11
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:42
NWpostie wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 19:16
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:15


I’ve answered the question multiple times now. You seem to not believe that these answers are possible, because you are terrified of upsetting the rich people that you think you are somehow relevant to and believe you can aspire to become.

I apologise for not responding sooner, as apparently working on a Saturday is exclusive to me, but I have enjoyed watching the racist reform party real-time meltdown today. Farage has been forced to drop the more extreme racists in his party, and has cancelled his BBC interviews tomorrow. It is always amusing to see how those on the furthest right of the political spectrum are the biggest ‘snowflakes’ of all.
You haven't answered any of my questions at all, you're doing is deflecting waffling whataboutry.
You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true. Every time I’ve answered your questions, you say it can’t be done, because it will upset the rich people too much. The irony of a reform defender claiming whataboutry when the manifesto of the racist party they are supporting could be written on the back of a fag packet, so devoid of actual solutions it is.
If it is a racist party why is Zia Yusef their biggest donor?
Surely he wouldn't donate to such a party.
A Reform candidate has just disowned the party and defected to the Conservatives because of Reform’s “Racism and sexism” problem.
Zia Yusef received a fantastic welcome at todays rally, his speech was outstanding.
Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative :thumbup .
‘It’s okay guys, even Zia Yusef is anti-immigrant, so we’re still not the baddies.’
Does it upset you when people from immigrant backgrounds don't vote Labour?
No.
Is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
Alcoholics pay attention to news of other alcoholics and how much they drink and reassure themselves that they aren’t an alcoholic because they don’t drink like those people. Just saying.
You ought to be a Politician, you find it impossible to answer simple questions.
I will ask one last time, is Zia Yusuf a racist anti-immigrant?
Like Sunak he is worse. His parents migrating here has been a success but heaven forbid anyone else looking to come to this country should be given the same opportunity. I believe the phrase is ‘f**k you got mine’.
I've no idea what that word salad even means :roll: .
It isn’t that difficult milly. Both men have parents who are immigrants to this country, but they actively seek to remove the option for others wanting to do the same.
Tman wrote:
30 Jun 2024, 21:42
I believe the phrase is "same tired old tropes".
Still, only five days to go now until that Brave New World..
Your contributions to this thread continue to be riveting and informative. Almost as if you are feeling a little guilty about defending and voting for a racist party.
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Jesus is this still going😁
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Post by Tman »

LouBarlow wrote:
01 Jul 2024, 05:56

Your contributions to this thread continue to be riveting and informative. Almost as if you are feeling a little guilty about defending and voting for a racist party.
I've already said I wouldn't dream of voting for Fagare or Reform, but I guess that was lost in the endless reposts you and your mate seem to love indulging in.
Saying I would vote for the Right just because I highlight the nonsense of the Left is playground logic.
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The long multiquotes is hurting my eyes 😂
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Tman wrote:
01 Jul 2024, 09:53
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Jul 2024, 05:56

Your contributions to this thread continue to be riveting and informative. Almost as if you are feeling a little guilty about defending and voting for a racist party.
I've already said I wouldn't dream of voting for Fagare or Reform, but I guess that was lost in the endless reposts you and your mate seem to love indulging in.
Saying I would vote for the Right just because I highlight the nonsense of the Left is playground logic.
You haven’t offered anything substantive at all. Unless that too was lost in the multi-quote deluge. The fact that I wasn’t clear on what party you would even be voting for speaks volumes. You are all to willing to criticise other’s politics, what are some of your own?