A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

[Hyrrokkin]

The simple fact is the vast majority of immigrants are economic migrants - whether they be illegal or legal and it has always been the case.
There is nothing wrong with that - everyone is entitled to better themselves - but it is a lie to say they are refugees fleeing this that and the other.
The vast majority of the population want immigration changed/controlled/stopped take your pick.
The vast majority of the population do not want them here.
No matter how much the virtue signalling 'look at me look at me' shout that will not change.
There are millions of immigrants already in this country we do not want or need any more and in fact should be deporting far more as is.

[Sean06]

Can this topic be locked?

[Hyrrokkin]

Can this topic be locked?

Agreed we will just go round in circles - lock this topic

[richietns]

The topics fine its in line with the title its when people call others racist just like the man who wrote on the leaflet because there ideology doesn't fit.

[milly]

P.s...how is farage dumping human beings on the beaches of france,is he not returning them to where they had come from on their boats. Sometimes watched by french police who we pay to stop said boats coming over.

He didn’t answer the question as to how he would dump humans on French beaches.

He plans to turn back boats and use the Royal Navy if necessary, which leads to the inevitable question, ‘Then what?’

Is France just going to say, ‘Why thank you for these humans you consider unworthy, same time next week?’

How many more million should the UK take in?

The UK ‘takes in’ barely any people compared to Germany which is doing very nicely thank you.

This notion that we are full to bursting is absolutely ludicrous. Scotland needs immigration. A scheme to attract people to Scotland wouldn’t go amiss.

I'm not bothered what Germany does.
How many more million should the UK take in?

I’m bothered what Germany does because they are a powerhouse economy.

That’s an impossible question to answer because immigration and emigration happens every year. It’s not a case of ‘let’s accept a million this year and then no more’, because next year it starts all over again.

When UK people start to feel more financially secure, they will emigrate in greater numbers. We’re in the midst of a financial crisis and leaving the EU has also impacted the numbers that used to leave the UK every year to live and study in EU countries.

Germany are no longer a powerhouse economy without cheap Russian gas, they have just seen the biggest rise in unemployment for 10 years.
I bet very few British students went to the EU to study although I'm interested to know how many used to go to Europe to study before Brexit, if you have any stats.
Why are we having a financial crisis when according to the lefties mass immigration generates wealth.
The UK should be booming.

Thousands of students used to leave the UK to live and study in the EU. I was one of them. There was also the Erasmus student exchange program. This was ended with Brexit.

You know why there is a financial crisis and it has nothing to do with immigrants, who form a fraction of the population.

If you want someone to blame, blame the people managing the purse strings of the UK, they’ve been managing the accounts for 14 very long years and no one feels positive anymore but by all means vote for more of the same if that floats your boat.

I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse but I have never blamed immigrants for the financial crisis.
Our economy doesn't generate enough wealth to support the burden placed upon it.

If the problem you have with immigrants isn’t based on economics then what possible issue could be bothering you about immigration to this country?

This notion that we are too poor to cope with immigrants is truly idiotic. We’re in the top 10 of world economies.

The UK isn't a rich Country, it has just had access to cheap credit for the past 20 years and that credit will be paid back by inflating away that debt which makes anyone without assets poorer.

[LouBarlow]

People just need to educate themselves more. The birthrate in this country continues to decline. The notion that we are suddenly running out of room to accommodate people is ridiculous. Despite what the Daily Mail says, immigrants don’t come here to sponge off the country. Generally, they come here to work, and contribute to the economy via taxation, as well as provide labour for industries that require them. It is proven fact that people born and raised here are far more of a strain on the welfare state than anyone who comes here from abroad, on a boat or otherwise. Immigrants put more into the pot than they take out.

[mjd24]

So if there hadn’t been some bloke in the audience who maybe worked for the BBC, Farage might have been able to answer the question as to how he planned to dump humans on beaches in France?

The Green Partly co-leader came across very well. Clear answers. The only problem the Greens have, is that they have never been faced with the grim reality of trying to implement your policy dreams as the government of the UK.

The was no maybe about the guy working for the BBC, he states this on his own website.
As for the Green Party leader, he was utterly clueless.
He had no idea how they were going to scrap millions of cars and replace them with EV's.

Farage still couldn’t answer the question of how he planned to dump humans on French beaches.

As for EVs: the answer to that is to let China flood the UK car market with their incredibly cheap EVs. But no politician of any persuasion wants to admit that that is how to do it because of what it would do to car production here.

Its strange that the EU believes so much in climate change that it puts massive tariffs on Chinese EV's.

It’s not because they’re not bothered about climate change, it’s because of the impact cheap Chinese EVs will have on all the massive car manufacturers based within the EU who can’t compete with China on price.

We are facing global boiling and they would rather prioritise European car manufacturers over an extinction level event?
Or more likely climate change is total bollocks and just a way of extracting tax and controlling the population.

Youre now saying climate change is total bollocks?

[mjd24]

The simple fact is the vast majority of immigrants are economic migrants - whether they be illegal or legal and it has always been the case.
There is nothing wrong with that - everyone is entitled to better themselves - but it is a lie to say they are refugees fleeing this that and the other.
The vast majority of the population want immigration changed/controlled/stopped take your pick.
The vast majority of the population do not want them here.
No matter how much the virtue signalling 'look at me look at me' shout that will not change.
There are millions of immigrants already in this country we do not want or need any more and in fact should be deporting far more as is.

You are aware that a huge majority of immigrants are here on work or study visas? Over 800’000 i think the number is for the last year.

“Illegal” immigrants in comparison, account for something like 30-40’000.

Also you must realise that we do need immigration, just look at the stats on Doctors and nhs workers.

[LouBarlow]

So if there hadn’t been some bloke in the audience who maybe worked for the BBC, Farage might have been able to answer the question as to how he planned to dump humans on beaches in France?

The Green Partly co-leader came across very well. Clear answers. The only problem the Greens have, is that they have never been faced with the grim reality of trying to implement your policy dreams as the government of the UK.

The was no maybe about the guy working for the BBC, he states this on his own website.
As for the Green Party leader, he was utterly clueless.
He had no idea how they were going to scrap millions of cars and replace them with EV's.

Farage still couldn’t answer the question of how he planned to dump humans on French beaches.

As for EVs: the answer to that is to let China flood the UK car market with their incredibly cheap EVs. But no politician of any persuasion wants to admit that that is how to do it because of what it would do to car production here.

Its strange that the EU believes so much in climate change that it puts massive tariffs on Chinese EV's.

It’s not because they’re not bothered about climate change, it’s because of the impact cheap Chinese EVs will have on all the massive car manufacturers based within the EU who can’t compete with China on price.

We are facing global boiling and they would rather prioritise European car manufacturers over an extinction level event?
Or more likely climate change is total bollocks and just a way of extracting tax and controlling the population.

Youre now saying climate change is total bollocks?

Have you never encountered milly before? 97% of the world’s scientists agree that humans are causing climate change, yet a mail processor for Royal Mail is better qualified to offer an opinion apparently.

[mjd24]

The topics fine its in line with the title its when people call others racist just like the man who wrote on the leaflet because there ideology doesn't fit.

Not every Reform candidate and supporter are racist, but id guess most racists will be Reform supporters.

[richietns]

The topics fine its in line with the title its when people call others racist just like the man who wrote on the leaflet because there ideology doesn't fit.

Not every Reform candidate and supporter are racist, but id guess most racists will be Reform supporters.

Your proving my point.

[LouBarlow]

The topics fine its in line with the title its when people call others racist just like the man who wrote on the leaflet because there ideology doesn't fit.

Not every Reform candidate and supporter are racist, but id guess most racists will be Reform supporters.

Your proving my point.

Why would a racist not vote for the party who promises to be harshest on immigrants? Would they vote green instead?

[postslippete]

People just need to educate themselves more. The birthrate in this country continues to decline. The notion that we are suddenly running out of room to accommodate people is ridiculous. Despite what the Daily Mail says, immigrants don’t come here to sponge off the country. Generally, they come here to work, and contribute to the economy via taxation, as well as provide labour for industries that require them. It is proven fact that people born and raised here are far more of a strain on the welfare state than anyone who comes here from abroad, on a boat or otherwise. Immigrants put more into the pot than they take out.

Whilst it's very easy to blame immigrants, the root cause of Britain's problems is entirely due to growing inequality where the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. There are more billionaires living in this country than ever before and 52 of the richest families have more wealth than the poorest half of Britain's population. Over the last 36 years public wealth has collapsed from £337bn to -£1.01 trillion, while the wealth of the 200 richest families has grown from £42bn to £711bn.

Ordinary people's living standards have collapsed under the Tory government and people desperately want change but Labour are making all sorts of promises in their manifesto which I don't believe they can pay for and you can't really fund these things unless you tax the rich. Unfortunately, both the Tories and Labour don't believe that it is a vote winner. Labour really haven't offered anything significant and when you have a two party system that think along similar lines it is as depressing as it is undemocratic. Because of this many people will likely vote for Reform but there is nothing in their manifesto which suggests that they will tax the rich more. In fact, they say that all job seekers and those fit to work must find employment within 4 months or accept a job after 2 offers, otherwise benefits are withdrawn. It is very admirable and I know it resonates with a lot of working people but it is a dangerous policy to have considering what jobs there are and it only makes the divide between rich and poor even greater.

The popular idea in a time of crisis is to blame immigrants and foreigners and I totally get that but we really need to see beyond immigration. We were told that Brexit would allow us to control our own borders and control immigration and what happened was quite the opposite. All this proves to me is that it is a very complex situation and not easily solvable. What we desperately need, above all, is a system that allows us to tax the rich people more and in all honesty I don't think any of the politicians in any of these parties are going to save us. I think that we have to save us. What we need is to reduce inequality, redistribute away from the very rich towards working people and cut working people's taxes and only in this way can we enjoy much higher levels of living standards.

[richietns]

The topics fine its in line with the title its when people call others racist just like the man who wrote on the leaflet because there ideology doesn't fit.

Not every Reform candidate and supporter are racist, but id guess most racists will be Reform supporters.

Your proving my point.

Why would a racist not vote for the party who promises to be harshest on immigrants? Would they vote green instead?

All the parties are saying there is to much but as we know they never keep there promises I dont think starmer will tackle it,like people have already said its great for the rich to get richer but not for you and me it pushes down wages to gig economy levels on that subject wonder if we get a better payrise next year minimum wage is catching up.

[Tman]

What we need is to reduce inequality, redistribute away from the very rich towards working people and cut working people's taxes and only in this way can we enjoy much higher levels of living standards.

Easy to say. Has engineered wealth redistribution ever worked anywhere?