The Guardian: Royal Mail owner faces GBP900m class action claim for ‘abusing dominant position’

[LouBarlow]

So you're saying that people don't take theirs columns at face value, or as news or information?
If that's the case then why not have Farage or the booby Johnson as contributors?

I’m saying exactly that. You have to scroll down half a page before hearing anything those three have to say. The news is not being reported by them. That is a massive difference compared to even the BBC who have their biases on the news front page up top. The same with the other s**t tabloids.

[yellowbelly]

Indeed not, but much news output (even from the venerable BBC) is biased in some form or another, possibly even unintentionally in some cases.
But as previously said, any paper which has those three journo's as staffers is clearly intentionally and unequivocally Left-leaning, so it's bias (and intended market) is obvious.

The key difference is the three you mention do not report on the news. They contribute opinion pieces. None of those are reporting from Gaza or even contributing to election stories for example. They are columnists at best not news reporters.

'Opinion' on the News, subtle distinction but I'd say to the majority of people the distinction is negligible, it's in a 'News' paper:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -slaughter

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... government

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... itain-riot

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... ister.html

[NWpostie]

Assuming Royal Mail lose, this could bankcrupt the company and all bets are off.

Kretinsky could do would some companies would do, declare RM insolvent shut down the company then the debt die with RMv1.0 and set up a new company with all assets gifted to it operating as RMv2.0.

[SpacePhoenix]

Assuming Royal Mail lose, this could bankcrupt the company and all bets are off.

Kretinsky could do would some companies would do, declare RM insolvent shut down the company then the debt die with RMv1.0 and set up a new company with all assets gifted to it operating as RMv2.0.

Could he effectively do "fire & hire" at the same time to force everyone onto new contracts?

[NWpostie]

Assuming Royal Mail lose, this could bankcrupt the company and all bets are off.

Kretinsky could do would some companies would do, declare RM insolvent shut down the company then the debt die with RMv1.0 and set up a new company with all assets gifted to it operating as RMv2.0.

Could he effectively do "fire & hire" at the same time to force everyone onto new contracts?

It wouldn't suprise me if that's the game plan.

[mjd24]

I'd be more concerned for all those who believe the Guardian to be a reliable source of information.

Would love to hear where you get your news from.

[LouBarlow]

Indeed not, but much news output (even from the venerable BBC) is biased in some form or another, possibly even unintentionally in some cases.
But as previously said, any paper which has those three journo's as staffers is clearly intentionally and unequivocally Left-leaning, so it's bias (and intended market) is obvious.

The key difference is the three you mention do not report on the news. They contribute opinion pieces. None of those are reporting from Gaza or even contributing to election stories for example. They are columnists at best not news reporters.

'Opinion' on the News, subtle distinction but I'd say to the majority of people the distinction is negligible, it's in a 'News' paper:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -slaughter

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... government

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... itain-riot

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... ister.html

Did you read my follow up post or? You have to scroll down to these articles. The aforementioned trio do not report on the news i.e. those at the top of the page when you load up the website. Tory stooges like Laura Kuennsberg actually are classed as news reporters on the BBC, for example. You might say the difference is subtle, but one is infinitely more problematic than the other when it comes to at least targeting some degree of impartiality.

[Barnacle]

We live in an age where people gather their news from multiple sources so the notion that people can’t distinguish between biased fluff and a more nuanced report of the same story is ludicrous.

I’d also like to admit to the group that for years I read the Daily Fail every day (MoS yes), without ever realising that it was a Tory leaning news rag and I have never voted Conservative in my life.

[LouBarlow]

We live in an age where people gather their news from multiple sources so the notion that people can’t distinguish between biased fluff and a more nuanced report of the same story is ludicrous.

I’d also like to admit to the group that for years I read the Daily Fail every day (MoS yes), without ever realising that it was a Tory leaning news rag and I have never voted Conservative in my life.

You give people far too much credit. The majority of folks read a headline and are done. Owen Jones isn’t writing those. People who are intelligent enough to consult multiple sources and understand the biases behind those sources are few and far between. Yet we all get to vote on the future of this country. It is why it is in the state it is now.