This is Royal Mail's Last Chance - Dave Ward

[renrag40]

Oh My God. Dave doesn’t get it does He? RM have a plan for the future and it doesn’t need His input. They weren’t interested in the last dispute and they arnt interested now unless he wants to help them sell it to Us

Oh Dave does get it.
A big fat pay check each month from our subs while adding to global warming with all the hot air he comes out with.
Absolutely useless. A paper tiger with a wind problem.
Perhaps he would like to explain why over the last 10 years he and his cronies on the PEC haven't managed to keep our wages equal with RPI nevermind beat it.

[MB81]

Also, will Royal Mail have any financial liability in respect of matteers arising from The Post Office Scandal? Appreciate that Post Office is now a separate entity to Royal Mail, but for a substantial period at the start of the scandal early in the new milennium, Post Office was controlled by Royal Mail. Or did any liabilities pass to Post Office when they separated from Royal Mail, prior to Royal Mail's privatisation?

Probably not. The government owned both Royal Mail and the Post Office before they were separated in 2012, with RM later being privatised. When the government sold off Royal Mail they also took over our liabilities i.e. our history pension deficit of over £8 billion. We have often complimented the Post Office well in the past but the two companies have always been different businesses run under different management. The Horizon system was only installed (to the best of my knowledge) in Post Offices which were run by sub-postmasters. During the inquiry a few of the past RM senior management that were interviewed like Adam Crozier said he wasn't aware of the large number of prosecutions being launched by the Post Office and the text messages by Moya Greene to Paula Vennells suggesting that "she must have knew" will surely stand in Royal Mail's favour in covering their tracks.

I often wonderered the same with the false additional entrys being fed into the DTR pda's by management demanding the "recorder" with responsibility add 10 more 2c, 7 more 1c ppi, 11 mini Yorkshire handstamped etc etc... ( unless they can categorically say no, I'll only scan what is filtered through me personally, almost an impractical impossiblity in day to day practice & reality)..... and that's just my MC alone!?!...

+ that up daily
X number of MC's nationally

= A massive Wtf discrepancy in the system no doubt and that's before Fujitsu messed with the our poor Post Masters & Mistresses PO terminal systems, whom many if not most had invested their own hard earned money into a franchise that turned out essentially to be a type of Ponzi /RIP/scam scheme for them.

[Sean06]

Also, will Royal Mail have any financial liability in respect of matteers arising from The Post Office Scandal? Appreciate that Post Office is now a separate entity to Royal Mail, but for a substantial period at the start of the scandal early in the new milennium, Post Office was controlled by Royal Mail. Or did any liabilities pass to Post Office when they separated from Royal Mail, prior to Royal Mail's privatisation?

Probably not. The government owned both Royal Mail and the Post Office before they were separated in 2012, with RM later being privatised. When the government sold off Royal Mail they also took over our liabilities i.e. our history pension deficit of over £8 billion. We have often complimented the Post Office well in the past but the two companies have always been different businesses run under different management. The Horizon system was only installed (to the best of my knowledge) in Post Offices which were run by sub-postmasters. During the inquiry a few of the past RM senior management that were interviewed like Adam Crozier said he wasn't aware of the large number of prosecutions being launched by the Post Office and the text messages by Moya Greene to Paula Vennells suggesting that "she must have knew" will surely stand in Royal Mail's favour in covering their tracks.

I often wonderered the same with the false additional entrys being fed into the DTR pda's by management demanding the "recorder" with responsibility add 10 more 2c, 7 more 1c ppi, 11 mini Yorkshire handstamped etc etc... ( unless they can categorically say no, I'll only scan what is filtered through me personally, almost an impractical impossiblity in day to day practice & reality)..... and that's just my MC alone!?!...

+ that up daily
X number of MC's nationally

= A massive Wtf discrepancy in the system no doubt and that's before Fujitsu messed with the our poor Post Masters & Mistresses PO terminal systems, whom many if not most had invested their own hard earned money into a franchise that turned out essentially to be a type of Ponzi /RIP/scam scheme for them.

Figures in mc,s were always manipulated by management.

[MB81]

True, as I've been told over the years, I'm just highly sceptical tbh. I just don't see how discrepancys so large can't have an impact somewhere along the line is all?.. and the fact it is 1c/2c Horizon & Handstamped that is my predominant concern, because although the now removed PC stations with handheld scanners albeit not to my knowledge a "Horizon" software system unless I'm mistaken, are gone in favour of the PDA method now, those false entry's are still "Horizon traffic" and would eventually upload to main server in Fujitsu - irrespective of Managers own hands on manipulation later on or not in the office or whatever for just their bonuses in reality?
Apologies for my cynicism, I believe nothing from their mouths especially after my unlawful dismissal for disability discrimination, wrongful dismissal also as I got 4 weeks opposed to my entitled 8, denial of my Tribunal through lack of the union not informing me my rights and deadlines (I needed them) whereas a paid solicitor would've ensured I did, & reinstatement with slow & subtle punitive treatment lol I must. I asked the other day about the union launch an investigation into why I didn't get my day in court essentially (I insisted from day 1 my intentions for tribunal , so they knew, just couldn't be bothered with me until the last minute)... I was told "well, ya got ya job back eh?".... No apology, no resolution to that bitter period. I made them aware of a 20 year old UK law to protect employers from recrimination from an apology if it's to help wronged employees move on as it were.

Hahaha yeah,,, I should've known better, hindsights wonderful but i won't have their tripe and am taking it further and as far as I damn well can.

Sorry for the deviation away from the subject matter folks.
With respect

[Barnacle]

True, as I've been told over the years, I'm just highly sceptical tbh. I just don't see how discrepancys so large can't have an impact somewhere along the line is all?.. and the fact it is 1c/2c Horizon & Handstamped that is my predominant concern, because although the now removed PC stations with handheld scanners albeit not to my knowledge a "Horizon" software system unless I'm mistaken, are gone in favour of the PDA method now, those false entry's are still "Horizon traffic" and would eventually upload to main server in Fujitsu - irrespective of Managers own hands on manipulation later on or not in the office or whatever for just their bonuses in reality?
Apologies for my cynicism, I believe nothing from their mouths especially after my unlawful dismissal for disability discrimination, wrongful dismissal also as I got 4 weeks opposed to my entitled 8, denial of my Tribunal through lack of the union not informing me my rights and deadlines (I needed them) whereas a paid solicitor would've ensured I did, & reinstatement with slow & subtle punitive treatment lol I must. I asked the other day about the union launch an investigation into why I didn't get my day in court essentially (I insisted from day 1 my intentions for tribunal , so they knew, just couldn't be bothered with me until the last minute)... I was told "well, ya got ya job back eh?".... No apology, no resolution to that bitter period. I made them aware of a 20 year old UK law to protect employers from recrimination from an apology if it's to help wronged employees move on as it were.

Hahaha yeah,,, I should've known better, hindsights wonderful but i won't have their tripe and am taking it further and as far as I damn well can.

Sorry for the deviation away from the subject matter folks.
With respect

I’ve been banging on about this for a few years now but in a company that uses numbers to make it’s case for downgrading this and upgrading that, counting is everything. It’s a very basic element which is being used and manipulated but the consequences are dire. It’s not illegal, it’s not dodgy accounting, it’s simply wilful non-counting and adding twice or more because it suits.

The union should be on the numbers ALL THE TIME. They should be all over them. That they aren’t, tells me that there is no-one currently on the union payroll who knows how to dissect the numbers.