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RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

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Mr Rush
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by Mr Rush »

ted_e_bear wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 06:39
Would it be a stupid thought that they're doing their usual asking for something ridiculous when they really want a simpler end result like committing to only 1c mail on Saturday which would still satisfy the USO like this does.
I had the same thought after calming down from seeing that ridiculous chart. I still can't tell if we're being manipulated again.

They will not retain people by Chorltonising the job. Delivery 2.0 is not about restoring QoS. More honestly it should be called Workforce 2.0 - the plan to accelerate turnover until the new contracts form the majority. Staffing has been slashed by two thirds since the abolition of the second delivery, but labour will remain their largest expenditure until they can replace us with machines (just as soon as they find a PSM that can deal with red sleeves, or LSMs that can read letters the right way up).
The machine stops.
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Post by Hyrrokkin »

What a load of overcomplicated convoluted bollocks
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by SpacePhoenix »

HTPostman wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 18:13
It’s already a huge mess when you have a bulk mailing for every address and are told to prep them all and take where you are going.
That's what the DTS system is supposed to stop. The companies sending them bulk postings can't be using DSA economy, as any DSA economy items where there's no 1C for an address should get held by the DTS system until the next day (maximum of 5 days)
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by TopperGas »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 19:39
HTPostman wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 18:13
It’s already a huge mess when you have a bulk mailing for every address and are told to prep them all and take where you are going.
That's what the DTS system is supposed to stop. The companies sending them bulk postings can't be using DSA economy, as any DSA economy items where there's no 1C for an address should get held by the DTS system until the next day (maximum of 5 days)
Does it just get held until Wednesday each week then you get it dumped on your duty by the system, given we hardly get any mail on a Monday or Tuesday, then it takes off from Wednesday onwards.
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by R5001 »

Still don't understand why what we did pre-pandemic is suddenly undoable.

Maybe relax the timings a little if its needed, lets 2nd class have an extra day in busier times, but f**k me, it worked, now it doesn't. They keep fixing what wasn't, at one time, really broken....
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It's not making enough money for RM that's the drive behind all the changes, MONEY :arrrghhh
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by SpacePhoenix »

TopperGas wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 20:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 19:39
HTPostman wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 18:13
It’s already a huge mess when you have a bulk mailing for every address and are told to prep them all and take where you are going.
That's what the DTS system is supposed to stop. The companies sending them bulk postings can't be using DSA economy, as any DSA economy items where there's no 1C for an address should get held by the DTS system until the next day (maximum of 5 days)
Does it just get held until Wednesday each week then you get it dumped on your duty by the system, given we hardly get any mail on a Monday or Tuesday, then it takes off from Wednesday onwards.
Probably by the Tuesday night it has hit the 5 day limit and gets automatically released
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

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We were hammered today and that wasn’t election mail, it was just mail, trays of the stuff, to every door. The idea that this volume could be held back and then released so that we’re at every pigging door, just to satisfy some spreadsheet hugging twit, is monstrous. Being at every door with today’s mail meant four bundles per loop. That’s not physically sustainable across a long walk. Something has to give. I am not a donkey.
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by ted_e_bear »

Barnacle wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 21:10
We were hammered today and that wasn’t election mail, it was just mail, trays of the stuff, to every door. The idea that this volume could be held back and then released so that we’re at every pigging door, just to satisfy some spreadsheet hugging twit, is monstrous. Being at every door with today’s mail meant four bundles per loop. That’s not physically sustainable across a long walk. Something has to give. I am not a donkey.
Same here, today horrendous, yesterday and Monday f**k all.
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by qwerty2 »

Barnacle wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 21:10
We were hammered today and that wasn’t election mail, it was just mail, trays of the stuff, to every door. The idea that this volume could be held back and then released so that we’re at every pigging door, just to satisfy some spreadsheet hugging twit, is monstrous. Being at every door with today’s mail meant four bundles per loop. That’s not physically sustainable across a long walk. Something has to give. I am not a donkey.
We used to do 4 or 5 bundles every bag just about everyday 15-20 years ago!!!!!!! And 3 D2Ds average
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by Barnacle »

qwerty2 wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 21:36
Barnacle wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 21:10
We were hammered today and that wasn’t election mail, it was just mail, trays of the stuff, to every door. The idea that this volume could be held back and then released so that we’re at every pigging door, just to satisfy some spreadsheet hugging twit, is monstrous. Being at every door with today’s mail meant four bundles per loop. That’s not physically sustainable across a long walk. Something has to give. I am not a donkey.
We used to do 4 or 5 bundles every bag just about everyday 15-20 years ago!!!!!!! And 3 D2Ds average
The walks were shorter. Actually the long timers here joke about how they used to fit an entire walk in one bag. So a bundle, is not the same size for everyone. When I say a bundle, I mean a slab.
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Post by Clappedoutpostie »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 06:52
One thing is guaranteed we will be working much harder than we are working now.
You might be but I won’t, I don’t have anything left to give.
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by plymouth3 »

We have to clear D2D at end of week.
So 6 x D2D that need all completing in Tuesday and Thursday. Bundles could’ve horrendous
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by Bellaber »

Do away with Tuesday starts in the mail centre s and equalise the mail across the week
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Re: RMCtv : Every address in the UK would receive a foot/core walk five times in a fortnight, effectively.

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Bellaber wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 06:06
Do away with Tuesday starts in the mail centre s and equalise the mail across the week
Not possible, too much risk of batches becoming too large for the available time. Dispatch times and DO start times would have to be made later. Once the network changes come in, each batch will have a time when it's got to be ready to go out for. It could end up with the excess being sent out as manual