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No more red sleeves

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SpacePhoenix
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No more red sleeves

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Heard yesterday that all the red sleeves are being withdrawn from use so very shortly the only sleeves will be the green ones used for specials and the white correx ones.

Should be interesting some nights trying to find enough correx ones with usable doors for doing small packets/Tracked setups. Often we have to remove the doors from them if we have to use them for the mech or for manual letters and flats. I'm hoping that RM don't end up converting any remaining plain yorks into correx ones.

Funnily enough I saw the first cardboard sleeve that I've seen for a while outside of Xmas pressure.
Barnacle
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Re: No more red sleeves

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I hope they don’t throw them away. The frames they took out of our place are still sitting in the yard all these months later as if waiting to be allowed back in once grownups are in charge again.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
Mr Rush
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Re: No more red sleeves

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Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 13:52
I hope they don’t throw them away.
They will. Then a few years down the line pay £5m to a consultancy firm to reinvent them.
The machine stops.
rogersh
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Re: No more red sleeves

Post by rogersh »

I have been using red sleeves for Harrier (Free Prints) in favour of the white correx sleeves.
Reason; Using the correx sleeves often results in items bursting out of the York caused by the weight of the envelopes & also the door integrity not being adequate.
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Re: No more red sleeves

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rogersh wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:15
I have been using red sleeves for Harrier (Free Prints) in favour of the white correx sleeves.
Reason; Using the correx sleeves often results in items bursting out of the York caused by the weight of the envelopes & also the door integrity not being adequate.
They are trash. Wonder how much they have cost? Whatever the price it’s too much.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: No more red sleeves

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Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:25
Wonder how much they have cost? Whatever the price it’s too much.
I imagine that like the uniforms the initial outlay would be much cheaper than what it was replacing, then as they break and fail on a daily basis it starts costing the company more and more. We'll have a WTL soon with a patronising video about "treating your correx sleeve like a loved one" rather than admit they aren't fit for purpose
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Re: No more red sleeves

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Kenfandango wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:32
Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:25
Wonder how much they have cost? Whatever the price it’s too much.
I imagine that like the uniforms the initial outlay would be much cheaper than what it was replacing, then as they break and fail on a daily basis it starts costing the company more and more. We'll have a WTL soon with a patronising video about "treating your correx sleeve like a loved one" rather than admit they aren't fit for purpose
It's known as false economy and RM have been all about that, with anything of value, for a few years now.
ted_e_bear
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Re: No more red sleeves

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Kenfandango wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:32
Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:25
Wonder how much they have cost? Whatever the price it’s too much.
I imagine that like the uniforms the initial outlay would be much cheaper than what it was replacing, then as they break and fail on a daily basis it starts costing the company more and more. We'll have a WTL soon with a patronising video about "treating your correx sleeve like a loved one" rather than admit they aren't fit for purpose
I'm sure there was an article when they first appeared showing the team of agency staff employed somewhere who's sole job was to repair and make them so it's probably already cost a fortune more than the red ones did.
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Re: No more red sleeves

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ted_e_bear wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 18:36
Kenfandango wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:32
Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:25
Wonder how much they have cost? Whatever the price it’s too much.
I imagine that like the uniforms the initial outlay would be much cheaper than what it was replacing, then as they break and fail on a daily basis it starts costing the company more and more. We'll have a WTL soon with a patronising video about "treating your correx sleeve like a loved one" rather than admit they aren't fit for purpose
I'm sure there was an article when they first appeared showing the team of agency staff employed somewhere who's sole job was to repair and make them so it's probably already cost a fortune more than the red ones did.
That’s so ridiculous. They are expert at spaffing money up the wall. You don’t expect it in a private company.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: No more red sleeves

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Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:23
ted_e_bear wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 18:36
Kenfandango wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:32
Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:25
Wonder how much they have cost? Whatever the price it’s too much.
I imagine that like the uniforms the initial outlay would be much cheaper than what it was replacing, then as they break and fail on a daily basis it starts costing the company more and more. We'll have a WTL soon with a patronising video about "treating your correx sleeve like a loved one" rather than admit they aren't fit for purpose
I'm sure there was an article when they first appeared showing the team of agency staff employed somewhere who's sole job was to repair and make them so it's probably already cost a fortune more than the red ones did.
That’s so ridiculous. They are expert at spaffing money up the wall. You don’t expect it in a private company.
I've just had a search and found this thread I was nearly correct
viewtopic.php?p=1080257#p1080257
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Re: No more red sleeves

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ted_e_bear wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 21:10
Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:23
ted_e_bear wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 18:36
Kenfandango wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:32
Barnacle wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:25
Wonder how much they have cost? Whatever the price it’s too much.
I imagine that like the uniforms the initial outlay would be much cheaper than what it was replacing, then as they break and fail on a daily basis it starts costing the company more and more. We'll have a WTL soon with a patronising video about "treating your correx sleeve like a loved one" rather than admit they aren't fit for purpose
I'm sure there was an article when they first appeared showing the team of agency staff employed somewhere who's sole job was to repair and make them so it's probably already cost a fortune more than the red ones did.
That’s so ridiculous. They are expert at spaffing money up the wall. You don’t expect it in a private company.
I've just had a search and found this thread I was nearly correct
viewtopic.php?p=1080257#p1080257
Oh gawd. How much time has been wasted simply servicing the white nonsense?!
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
centenaryman
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Re: No more red sleeves

Post by centenaryman »

there are 3 shifts making these crappy ideas of york sides??
6am-2pm
2pm-10pm
10pm-6am

approx 10 ppl per shift so at a guess somewhere in the region of £2500- £3000 a week in wages
the night sift also carries a night premium.
if the arnt enough staff on a shift they bring in agency on a bigger wage
plus all the outlay for the cutting machines

weve told em the screws that hold the sides on (at the top) need washers as the sides burst of too easily
we told em there not for trays but they dont listen.
we sick of getting static shocks of em
the door is a crap idea....sticky velcro that comes of too easy

thats a few things wrong with em
funkflex55
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Re: No more red sleeves

Post by funkflex55 »

This was a recent post on workplace;

350 Broken Correx Sleeves on our platform & another 200+ in our Mail Centre. So there is appox 550 York's out of action. It's causing Health & Safety & poor 5S issues. Plus it's causing storage issues. And 1000's of broken sleeves in the National system.
What are we doing about these Correx Sleeves Nationally?
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Re: No more red sleeves

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This is the type of waste you expect to find in somewhere like the council, not a private company with an eye on profits 🙄
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: No more red sleeves

Post by goneaway »

And so much for Royal Mail's commitment to become "net zero". The increase in plastic waste these undurable white sleeves will end up producing is shocking. I bet they're not declaing that in their calculations of their green credentials.