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daveyeff
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chorlton D.O<
wtf?
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The Great Wall of Chorlton D/o
The Staff have been amazing this week and we have made this revision work , we have taken the feedback from the staff and with a few tweaks here and there we can only improve on what’s been a fantastic first week.
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The Great Wall of Chorlton D/o
The Staff have been amazing this week and we have made this revision work , we have taken the feedback from the staff and with a few tweaks here and there we can only improve on what’s been a fantastic first week.
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daveyeff
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Re: chorlton D.O<
any ideas what this is about?
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Mcclinton
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Re: chorlton D.O<
Looks like that one of the new systems they are trialling.
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Barnacle
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That must be Delivery 2.0! Horrific!
It’s the only method they are still trialling. All the other ones ‘didn’t deliver the time savings expected’.
It’s the only method they are still trialling. All the other ones ‘didn’t deliver the time savings expected’.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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daveyeff
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Re: chorlton D.O<
how the feck does this ''brainstorm'' work then?
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Barnacle
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Wish someone from an office trialling it would explain the logic.
I can’t see how it will offer up any time savings because rearranging the position of the frames doesn’t alter the amount of prep or mail.
I can’t see how it will offer up any time savings because rearranging the position of the frames doesn’t alter the amount of prep or mail.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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is that the whole sector?
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Barnacle
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How long before the drone worker bees start repurposing white York sleeves to use as dividers 
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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PDAHappy
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Re: chorlton D.O<
Yep.Thats the “Ringwood” system.There’s more details on another thread.
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SpacePhoenix
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If RM ever were to bring this in around the country, I don't think there will be walks. Think you'll just get allocated a section to do that day, the section you get given the next day might be the same one or you might get a different section.
With more and more stuff getting scanned or sorted by a machine somewhere, I don't think the COMs will eventually have any say on how the sections get formed eventually
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I don't see how it makes anything more efficient....only less efficient.
People are going to get in each other's way when sorting and bagging up.
I am not sure things can be made much more efficient. It would make sense if all mail could be ordered by machine and maybe even bundled up by machine, but I don't see that happening. Not when we deliver leaflets, not when we deliver mail of varying sizes, not when we deliver small packets...I think it would be too difficult for a machine to do....
People are going to get in each other's way when sorting and bagging up.
I am not sure things can be made much more efficient. It would make sense if all mail could be ordered by machine and maybe even bundled up by machine, but I don't see that happening. Not when we deliver leaflets, not when we deliver mail of varying sizes, not when we deliver small packets...I think it would be too difficult for a machine to do....
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POSTMAN
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OPG
How will this wall work within the universal service reform, where posties rotate between different delivery routes?
Head of Delivery Design at Royal Mail Group
Great question. Of course we don't know the shape of the USO reform until Ofcom determines that.
In the example of our submission shown in the slide the "all product" person alternates between routes, all the "all product" routes for a given day would have to be adjacent in a run on the prep frame and then a separate block of routes which are "1c/parcel" today.
This would then allow someone to extend or contract into a block of neighbouring DPs with the same traffic profile and keep the prep simple.
In the 1c/parcel block people could also extend and contract within the same type of delivery work.
With the proposed change there should be 2 features on an "all product" route.
1) As you say fewer DPs served on an all product route as the % called at is higher
and 2) Less day to day variation as the letter call rate should mean the workload is more consistent and you have 1 day's parcels and 2 days' letters.
This should mean less need to absorb or drop delivery points from day to day, but not no need to do it. This is how the RM proposed USO change and the Delivery 2.0 could work together, but we need to see what form of reform we get before we confirm our exact designs.


How will this wall work within the universal service reform, where posties rotate between different delivery routes?
Head of Delivery Design at Royal Mail Group
Great question. Of course we don't know the shape of the USO reform until Ofcom determines that.
In the example of our submission shown in the slide the "all product" person alternates between routes, all the "all product" routes for a given day would have to be adjacent in a run on the prep frame and then a separate block of routes which are "1c/parcel" today.
This would then allow someone to extend or contract into a block of neighbouring DPs with the same traffic profile and keep the prep simple.
In the 1c/parcel block people could also extend and contract within the same type of delivery work.
With the proposed change there should be 2 features on an "all product" route.
1) As you say fewer DPs served on an all product route as the % called at is higher
and 2) Less day to day variation as the letter call rate should mean the workload is more consistent and you have 1 day's parcels and 2 days' letters.
This should mean less need to absorb or drop delivery points from day to day, but not no need to do it. This is how the RM proposed USO change and the Delivery 2.0 could work together, but we need to see what form of reform we get before we confirm our exact designs.

I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Nickvilla20
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The way it’s going you will need a degree in mathematics to be able to do this job.POSTMAN wrote: ↑15 Apr 2024, 22:54OPG
How will this wall work within the universal service reform, where posties rotate between different delivery routes?
Head of Delivery Design at Royal Mail Group
Great question. Of course we don't know the shape of the USO reform until Ofcom determines that.
In the example of our submission shown in the slide the "all product" person alternates between routes, all the "all product" routes for a given day would have to be adjacent in a run on the prep frame and then a separate block of routes which are "1c/parcel" today.
This would then allow someone to extend or contract into a block of neighbouring DPs with the same traffic profile and keep the prep simple.
In the 1c/parcel block people could also extend and contract within the same type of delivery work.
With the proposed change there should be 2 features on an "all product" route.
1) As you say fewer DPs served on an all product route as the % called at is higher
and 2) Less day to day variation as the letter call rate should mean the workload is more consistent and you have 1 day's parcels and 2 days' letters.
This should mean less need to absorb or drop delivery points from day to day, but not no need to do it. This is how the RM proposed USO change and the Delivery 2.0 could work together, but we need to see what form of reform we get before we confirm our exact designs.
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Barnacle
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Re: chorlton D.O<
They are trying to redesign a system which was already the most efficient way to deliver letters and parcels: delivering them together IS the most efficient use of staff time and vans.
All of their tinkering has made the system shambolic.
All of their tinkering has made the system shambolic.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’