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Transfer (new contract)

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garrilla
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Transfer (new contract)

Post by garrilla »

Two issues I wonder if anyone can help with.

1) how long before transfer?

The People App says it's 6 months.

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However, my COM says it 12 months.

Is the People App up to date? This being RM, it's not guaranteed is it?

2) are front line jobs still included on Sucess Factors? I can't see any jobs after searching for Postperson or Postman/Postwoman.

There is a job in a local office, which is on jobs.royalmail.com that I'd like to try and transfer for.

But what would be the process if they're not on Success Factors ?
siajgazz@gmail.com
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Re: Transfer (new contract)

Post by siajgazz@gmail.com »

6 months. I just transferred in January to new office after 6 months of work

go directly to the office you want to move to and talk to the manager. the fastest way to transfer
eggraidonmojo
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Re: Transfer (new contract)

Post by eggraidonmojo »

Not sure if it works but I've been told that if you want to transfer you should just apply on the external jobs site, and write somewhere in your application that you already work for Royal Mail.

It's also helpful to speak to HR, telling them that you have applied externally, and also try and get into the office you want to transfer to and speak to the com.

And yes, you can transfer after six months.
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garrilla
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Re: Transfer (new contract)

Post by garrilla »

siajgazz@gmail.com wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 18:43
6 months. I just transferred in January to new office after 6 months of work

go directly to the office you want to move to and talk to the manager. the fastest way to transfer
Perfect. I've got to call the COM in the new office tomorrow.
garrilla
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Re: Transfer (new contract)

Post by garrilla »

eggraidonmojo wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 19:17
Not sure if it works but I've been told that if you want to transfer you should just apply on the external jobs site, and write somewhere in your application that you already work for Royal Mail.
That's seem a bit cumbersome given that the advice on the People App.

eggraidonmojo wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 19:17

It's also helpful to speak to HR, telling them that you have applied externally
I tried to ring HR today, but there isn't an obvious option on the menu system.
eggraidonmojo wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 19:17
also try and get into the office you want to transfer to and soak to the com.
Speaking to the COM tomorrow
eggraidonmojo wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 19:17
And yes, you can transfer after six months.
Yes. I also found that bit says this on the FAQ at jobs.royalmail.com
If I see a vacancy at an office closer to home after I have started, am I able to transfer to this?

You are eligible to apply to transfer once you have completed 6 months in your current office, subject to you meeting the relevant eligibility criteria.
eggraidonmojo
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Re: Transfer (new contract)

Post by eggraidonmojo »

garrilla wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 19:25
eggraidonmojo wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 19:17
Not sure if it works but I've been told that if you want to transfer you should just apply on the external jobs site, and write somewhere in your application that you already work for Royal Mail.
That's seem a bit cumbersome given that the advice on the People App.

But there's not been a postperson job advertised on the internal site for about a year. I'm guessing this has something to do with there not being an agreement on new starters t's and c's, and the fact that the external vacs are being advertised on these terms.

See https://www.cwu.org/ltb/ltb-199-23-brtg ... job-share/

and https://cwueastern5.files.wordpress.com ... olicy1.pdf

option 3 for recruitment services, then option 1 or option 4 i guess
Barnacle
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Re: Transfer (new contract)

Post by Barnacle »

siajgazz@gmail.com wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 18:43
6 months. I just transferred in January to new office after 6 months of work

go directly to the office you want to move to and talk to the manager. the fastest way to transfer
As stated above, this is the way you go about it - you go and see the manager at the office you want to transfer to and have a chat. If they say they have a place for you, see your own manager about organising a transfer. They may or may not be awkward if they are short of staff and maybe say you have to wait blah blah blah, but that’s how you get the ball rolling.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
garrilla
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Re: Transfer (new contract)

Post by garrilla »

An UPDATE

1. I spoke to the COM in the DO I would transfer to. They had a space for me and wanted to do it ASAP. Agreed the 6 month min was the state of play.

2. Spoke to COM in my DO, who restated the 1 year limit but climbed down immediately when shown evidence. Agreed to let me go.

3. CoM in target DO asked for my Employee ID number to make the transfer. Start in a couple of weeks.

The old way of sucess factors and transfer lists doesn't seem to apply any more. Frontline jobs do not get added to sucess factors. And afaict, there is no transfer list process - asked union rep about this, who asked higher up but couldn't find out anything helpful.

If you don't know the manger in the DO, you can use the organisational structure page on Sucess Factors to identify them and send an email or make a call if their number is in their profile.

TLDR: speak to the DO manager you want transfer to start with. Then, if there is an option to transfer, talk to your current COM.
Chrismacp
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Re: Transfer (new contract)

Post by Chrismacp »

I'm on the contract where I don't work Sundays having been employed since 2021. I've been asking for a transfer for 2 years to an office closer to home. Only now I've managed to have an interested manager in helping me at the depot I want to go to. But now I can't apply on that success factors as it doesn't work. I don't want to have to go on the new contract but surely they can't stop a transfer if it's financially viable for me? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated