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Mothers Day

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Did your office Deliver this Mother's Day

Poll ended at 16 Mar 2024, 17:17

Yes
56
34%
No
111
66%
 
Total votes: 167

CarryingMGMT
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by CarryingMGMT »

R5001 wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:51
CarryingMGMT wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 13:18
Kenfandango wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 11:04
Managers were practically begging us to come in and do Sunday to "deliver mother's day." From Thursday to Saturday we got council "changes to your refuse collection schedule" letters for every house, water company "to the occupier" letters to every house and energy company "to the occupier" letters to every house alongside the named versions of (presumably) the same letter... Nobody wanted to do any more after that
Thursday the DTS system was switched off nationally so any mail held by the DTS system was automatically released Thursday night. Locally what I believe was council tax letters come through for a couple of DOs Friday night, one of them DOs is covered by DTS, most of them letters got held by the DTS, with there now being about a yorks worth of DTS for each of them batches.
Nobody here understands your Mail Centre jargon pal.
While it'd be nice for the acronyms to be broken down a bit more often, it's not too hard to gather that the "DTS" system manages machine sortable mail and tries to link lower priority bulk mailings (Council tax and the like) visits with addresses that have 1st class mail on each day until a given time limit, to spread the load across several days with some logic on when to give an address a given bulk mailing item, primarily to houses you already have to visit...

Basically computerised "warm calling" with your junk mail, just, with real letters instead. If it's off, you get the lot, if it's on, you should generally only get the bulk letters to houses you already need to visit that day.
What does DTS stand for then? Don't forget you are posting in the 'Blueshirts' forum, which as far as I'm aware is about Deliveries
ted_e_bear
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by ted_e_bear »

R5001 wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:51
CarryingMGMT wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 13:18
Kenfandango wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 11:04
Managers were practically begging us to come in and do Sunday to "deliver mother's day." From Thursday to Saturday we got council "changes to your refuse collection schedule" letters for every house, water company "to the occupier" letters to every house and energy company "to the occupier" letters to every house alongside the named versions of (presumably) the same letter... Nobody wanted to do any more after that
Thursday the DTS system was switched off nationally so any mail held by the DTS system was automatically released Thursday night. Locally what I believe was council tax letters come through for a couple of DOs Friday night, one of them DOs is covered by DTS, most of them letters got held by the DTS, with there now being about a yorks worth of DTS for each of them batches.
Nobody here understands your Mail Centre jargon pal.
While it'd be nice for the acronyms to be broken down a bit more often, it's not too hard to gather that the "DTS" system manages machine sortable mail and tries to link lower priority bulk mailings (Council tax and the like) visits with addresses that have 1st class mail on each day until a given time limit, to spread the load across several days with some logic on when to give an address a given bulk mailing item, primarily to houses you already have to visit...

Basically computerised "warm calling" with your junk mail, just, with real letters instead. If it's off, you get the lot, if it's on, you should generally only get the bulk letters to houses you already need to visit that day.
The only drawback being the "machined" mail isn't all the items so it's likely the case that a fair few of the addresses have already received either a parcel or something that hasn't passed through a machine.
yubin282
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by yubin282 »

Yeah, I love DTS.

Every saturday I get mail for the awkward delivery points that've had no mail all week. THANKS.
clashcityrocker
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by clashcityrocker »

CarryingMGMT wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:55

What does DTS stand for then? Don't forget you are posting in the 'Blueshirts' forum, which as far as I'm aware is about Deliveries
If you worked at Royal Mail you would know what it stands for.
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Ren Hoëk
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by Ren Hoëk »

clashcityrocker wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 18:32
CarryingMGMT wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:55

What does DTS stand for then? Don't forget you are posting in the 'Blueshirts' forum, which as far as I'm aware is about Deliveries
If you worked at Royal Mail you would know what it stands for.
I work for Royal Mail and I don't know what it stands for.
Ren Hoëk
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by Ren Hoëk »

Whole frames of mail filled with Mothers Day cards left behind. COM barely even acknowledged it. Everyone was doing their own separate thing. No leadership. No consistency. Pure chaos. Some people will be lucky to even get them on Monday. Embarrassing that we will be delivering those cards well into next week.

Someone has to be done about quality of service. It's shockingly bad and no one seems to give a f**k other than the posties. Who ironically are the people the company are pointing the finger at.
djhl
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by djhl »

Yep, nearly ten years on delivery and I don't know what DTS stands for. Still, least of my worries :Very Happy
gil
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by gil »

Perhaps the CWU should get involved :dance :dance :dance
LouBarlow
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by LouBarlow »

I mean, just send your Mother’s Day card earlier than the day before? Not an option? It is well known that the service is sporadic across the country, so just think ahead.
R5001
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by R5001 »

CarryingMGMT wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:55
R5001 wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:51
CarryingMGMT wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 13:18
Kenfandango wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 11:04
Managers were practically begging us to come in and do Sunday to "deliver mother's day." From Thursday to Saturday we got council "changes to your refuse collection schedule" letters for every house, water company "to the occupier" letters to every house and energy company "to the occupier" letters to every house alongside the named versions of (presumably) the same letter... Nobody wanted to do any more after that
Thursday the DTS system was switched off nationally so any mail held by the DTS system was automatically released Thursday night. Locally what I believe was council tax letters come through for a couple of DOs Friday night, one of them DOs is covered by DTS, most of them letters got held by the DTS, with there now being about a yorks worth of DTS for each of them batches.
Nobody here understands your Mail Centre jargon pal.
While it'd be nice for the acronyms to be broken down a bit more often, it's not too hard to gather that the "DTS" system manages machine sortable mail and tries to link lower priority bulk mailings (Council tax and the like) visits with addresses that have 1st class mail on each day until a given time limit, to spread the load across several days with some logic on when to give an address a given bulk mailing item, primarily to houses you already have to visit...

Basically computerised "warm calling" with your junk mail, just, with real letters instead. If it's off, you get the lot, if it's on, you should generally only get the bulk letters to houses you already need to visit that day.
What does DTS stand for then? Don't forget you are posting in the 'Blueshirts' forum, which as far as I'm aware is about Deliveries
I wasn't aware blushirts meant "incapable of logical thinking" or anything. and who cares what DTS stands for if we can figure out the result?
R5001
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by R5001 »

ted_e_bear wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 17:22
R5001 wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:51
CarryingMGMT wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 13:18
Kenfandango wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 11:04
Managers were practically begging us to come in and do Sunday to "deliver mother's day." From Thursday to Saturday we got council "changes to your refuse collection schedule" letters for every house, water company "to the occupier" letters to every house and energy company "to the occupier" letters to every house alongside the named versions of (presumably) the same letter... Nobody wanted to do any more after that
Thursday the DTS system was switched off nationally so any mail held by the DTS system was automatically released Thursday night. Locally what I believe was council tax letters come through for a couple of DOs Friday night, one of them DOs is covered by DTS, most of them letters got held by the DTS, with there now being about a yorks worth of DTS for each of them batches.
Nobody here understands your Mail Centre jargon pal.
While it'd be nice for the acronyms to be broken down a bit more often, it's not too hard to gather that the "DTS" system manages machine sortable mail and tries to link lower priority bulk mailings (Council tax and the like) visits with addresses that have 1st class mail on each day until a given time limit, to spread the load across several days with some logic on when to give an address a given bulk mailing item, primarily to houses you already have to visit...

Basically computerised "warm calling" with your junk mail, just, with real letters instead. If it's off, you get the lot, if it's on, you should generally only get the bulk letters to houses you already need to visit that day.
The only drawback being the "machined" mail isn't all the items so it's likely the case that a fair few of the addresses have already received either a parcel or something that hasn't passed through a machine.
I'm hardly a fan of the current RM, but, nothing is perfect. I've seen the results of it working properly, spreading council stuff across several days rather than flooding us on one day. Yeah, parcels and manual letters don't line up, but I think it landed better than full "you get everything".
Ren Hoëk
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by Ren Hoëk »

LouBarlow wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 19:34
I mean, just send your Mother’s Day card earlier than the day before? Not an option? It is well known that the service is sporadic across the country, so just think ahead.
I disagree with you here. The product we are selling people is to deliver it the next day. We aren't even trying. Not even pretending to care anymore. It's not something we should be finding acceptable just because we know there are problems.
Mr Rush
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by Mr Rush »

clashcityrocker wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 18:32
CarryingMGMT wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 16:55

What does DTS stand for then? Don't forget you are posting in the 'Blueshirts' forum, which as far as I'm aware is about Deliveries
If you worked at Royal Mail you would know what it stands for.
Are you implying there is some kind of weekly meeting that would inform staff about these sorts of things? I have to conclude after the last few years that WTLL has been scrapped as national policy. As with plenty from both RM and the CWU, I only know about it because I previously read it here.
yubin282 wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 18:19
Yeah, I love DTS.

Every saturday I get mail for the awkward delivery points that've had no mail all week. THANKS.
All part of the ploy to make Saturday so unattractive that staff will get onboard with scrapping six day deliveries :wink:
The machine stops.
TopperGas
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Re: Mothers Day

Post by TopperGas »

My postie delivered the partner's Tracked parcel yesterday but unfortunately not her Mother's Day card nor her new credit card pin no!
LouBarlow
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Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: Mothers Day

Post by LouBarlow »

Ren Hoëk wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 20:41
LouBarlow wrote:
10 Mar 2024, 19:34
I mean, just send your Mother’s Day card earlier than the day before? Not an option? It is well known that the service is sporadic across the country, so just think ahead.
I disagree with you here. The product we are selling people is to deliver it the next day. We aren't even trying. Not even pretending to care anymore. It's not something we should be finding acceptable just because we know there are problems.
I don’t find it acceptable but if I wanted something there next day I would send it special delivery.