If you leave the company during low season...

[norris9]

If you leave the company during low season (shorter days), do you have to pay back money to Royal Mail?

With all the random finish times now and the fact they are always changing - I have no idea if I am averaging my contracted hours, or if I've done less, or done more....

Is Royal Mail keeping track of this and recouping any money if you average less hours than you are contracted for....

Say someone comes into the company now and the days are shorter, say 7 hours 10 mins, but they are contracted to 7 and a half hours.... say these shorter days last until September, but this employee leaves the company in September....do they owe the company money?

[R5001]

Most likely, yes. Much like if you took your whole years holiday but didn't work a full 12 months before leaving a job, you'd have some of it deducted from your last pay.

It's possible the deal could be slightly different for RM, but I do know they calculate it the other way, if you work the longs and leave without the shorts, you do get the difference paid back.

[LouBarlow]

You have worked the longer days up front, so they will owe you money, not the other way around. If you join during the shorter hour days, vice versa.

[kazardaimenu]

No chance. I took some annual leave and it was worked out off a regular working week’s hours. Unless they plan to add a couple hours back on to the leave allowance at a later date. Who knows with this mob.

[Barnacle]

Surely, you would owe nothing because you might start ten mins later but you finish ten minutes later, and visa versa? So you are doing the same hours.

[heraldmoth]

It’s the same scenario for someone who joins in high season and misses the low. if everyone missed an hour here and there with the confusion that would save them 1.6m

[iHateD2Ds]

I would say Yes, you will owe them and will be deducted.

[Barnacle]

Aren’t all offices operating a later start, later finish policy? So you are working the same length of shift just over a different time period?

In some, do you start later but finish at the regular time?

[kazardaimenu]

Are Royal Mail just winging it with all this?

[Zicomurphy]

Aren’t all offices operating a later start, later finish policy? So you are working the same length of shift just over a different time period?

In some, do you start later but finish at the regular time?

This is to do with seasonal variations. Full timers starting 14 minutes later and finishing 10 minutes earlier. It’s just paying back the weeks we worked 24 minutes longer the end of last year.

Are you thinking of the changes to the network window when both start and finish times will be moved later?

[Barnacle]

Aren’t all offices operating a later start, later finish policy? So you are working the same length of shift just over a different time period?

In some, do you start later but finish at the regular time?

This is to do with seasonal variations. Full timers starting 14 minutes later and finishing 10 minutes earlier. It’s just paying back the weeks we worked 24 minutes longer the end of last year.

Are you thinking of the changes to the network window when both start and finish times will be moved later?

Ooooh. I was forgetting about the 4 minutes difference

I can imagine that people who do overtime are going to be stiffed.

[norris9]

Aren’t all offices operating a later start, later finish policy? So you are working the same length of shift just over a different time period?

In some, do you start later but finish at the regular time?

This is to do with seasonal variations. Full timers starting 14 minutes later and finishing 10 minutes earlier. It’s just paying back the weeks we worked 24 minutes longer the end of last year.

Are you thinking of the changes to the network window when both start and finish times will be moved later?

Ooooh. I was forgetting about the 4 minutes difference

I can imagine that people who do overtime are going to be stiffed.

In our office our days are quite a bit shorter right now than 4 mins..... imagine a 'low season' is 10, 15 or 20 minutes shorter than your contracted hours for 6 months.....then that is a lot of time when you add it all up....

I guess the answer is - nobody knows if Royal Mail are going to want money back or if they owe you money when you leave the company....

I'd assume they would.... because say you worked 20 minutes longer than your contract states for 6 months....then you are being shafted if you just work the 'high season' and then leave without that extra 20 mins per day not being paid.