Working your full weekly hours

[FirstPost]

With the new start times and the amount of people who will have exemptions due to child care.

Will these people be leaving work early most days?

Which means them not working full hours for which they are paid?

They cannot start earlier as the work won't be in the office so how are they going to payback what they owe the company?

[moonjaguar]

I have to pick up my kids from school and have not been given an exemption. Has anyone?

[yubin282]

What about those that don't have children ? or want them.
CWU.... shite as always

[yellowbelly]

Once they've followed the exceptions process and were rejected and appeal rejected would they then be offered
a different role with reduced hours?

If that's not good for them then would it be goodbye?

Be interesting to see if anybody goes for tribunal/constructive dismissal.....

ACAS - Constructive dismissal

making unreasonable changes to working patterns or place of work without agreement

But then it depends on what the interpretation of 'unreasonable' and 'without agreement' is, because the BRTG agreement was just that - an agreement.

[kazardaimenu]

If they want to reduce their hours Royal Mail would offer them later starts rather than earlier finishes…

[citypostie]

With the new start times and the amount of people who will have exemptions due to child care.

Will these people be leaving work early most days?

Which means them not working full hours for which they are paid?

They cannot start earlier as the work won't be in the office so how are they going to payback what they owe the company?

Our area rep floated the idea on people with exemptions starting the same time as everyone else but finishing earlier(would be singleton duties) and they hours they finish early would be repaid by working a Sunday. If you read the exemption process it's very unlikely anyone will get one, you have to prove you've explored every avenue and are unable to work the new times, just saying it will cost money in after school clubs etc isn't Gona be a valid reason.

[Acca Dacca]

There will be no exemptions.

Its pie in the sky. Its completely unworkable.

Even if they did have to work 6 days instead of 5 in order to work an hour less everyday ( which I dont think many would take up ) with park and loop that just causes issues for whoever they are partnered with and leaving the work needing covered everyday

[qwerty2]

Yes it’s all BULLCRAP they’ve got no intention of letting people finish earlier

[enskied]

I can't see why most (I say most not all) People with children can't factor it in. Some at ours either pick up neighbours kids or have their neighbours pick up theirs now. But come the changes they all want an exemption.

[Jb1969]

But the very reason some are in this job(delivery) is that RM prided itself on child friendly duties.
A lot of those with kids will have no choice but to leave as the costs associated with after school clubs etc are high.
The senior guys/girls are leaving because of unmanageable workload, the junior will leave because they cannot afford to stay!
Great business plan

[LouBarlow]

How does it even work if you have an office full of van-share rounds? You cannot have one half of the partnership on different start and finish times.

It seems a logistical nightmare.

[SpacePhoenix]

Apart from 2 maybe 3 cases, there won't be any exemptions as it won't be workable

[Kenfandango]

But the very reason some are in this job(delivery) is that RM prided itself on child friendly duties.
A lot of those with kids will have no choice but to leave as the costs associated with after school clubs etc are high.
The senior guys/girls are leaving because of unmanageable workload, the junior will leave because they cannot afford to stay!
Great business plan

I've been in the job less than 3 years and it was heavily advertised as a family friendly job when I took it. I'd say that in our DO the majority of staff they took on between 2015 and 2022 took the job for the hours and the childcare savings and a lot of us are now reconsidering our options (and before the "everywhere else is 9-5"/ "good luck getting postie money stacking shelves" brigade chime in, I feel compelled to point out that many of us have experience and training in other sectors but took the family friendly job option to be able to spend time with our families... If we can't, we may as well go back to our "regular hours" jobs for more money.)

Though as I stated elsewhere, our DO has been told we won't find out our new hours until the end of march for some bizarre reason (that may give my location away unless there are more of us)

[heraldmoth]

Is it an exemption or exception? Me thinks they have been crafty with the wording. I’ve had mine verbally turned down but haven’t had a written response, therefore I’m maintain mine is open or hasn’t been resolved. Ideally they are happy with older starts with kids leaving it means they can bring in lower paid staff. Lifting ur kids isn’t an exception apparently

[heraldmoth]

But the very reason some are in this job(delivery) is that RM prided itself on child friendly duties.
A lot of those with kids will have no choice but to leave as the costs associated with after school clubs etc are high.
The senior guys/girls are leaving because of unmanageable workload, the junior will leave because they cannot afford to stay!
Great business plan

I've been in the job less than 3 years and it was heavily advertised as a family friendly job when I took it. I'd say that in our DO the majority of staff they took on between 2015 and 2022 took the job for the hours and the childcare savings and a lot of us are now reconsidering our options (and before the "everywhere else is 9-5"/ "good luck getting postie money stacking shelves" brigade chime in, I feel compelled to point out that many of us have experience and training in other sectors but took the family friendly job option to be able to spend time with our families... If we can't, we may as well go back to our "regular hours" jobs for more money.)

Though as I stated elsewhere, our DO has been told we won't find out our new hours until the end of march for some bizarre reason (that may give my location away unless there are more of us)

Exactly this or if you are now expected to pay for an afternoons childcare 3-6 (up to 100 quid p/w) it would make sense to take a pay cut and avoid the childcare let’s face it minimum wage is only gonn a b cpl of quid less come April