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New start times

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comeracing
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New start times

Post by comeracing »

New start times announced in our office Mon 19th February, expected to go back an hour from 7.15 to 8.15 , ok ive seen start times at my office from when I first started go from 5.30 am to 6.00 am to 7.00 am to 7.15 am and now possibly 8am or 8.15 am and over the years throughout these various start times at least 80% of my office has come in much earlier than the specified start times ranging from 15 minutes to over an hour, the millions RM must save with staff working for free ,management must be rubbing there hands together with these 8am + starts as they will fully know lots of staff will come in an hour early for free , and who's the first to moan when they collapse duties and give you more lapsing :arrrghhh
Jack1960
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Re: New start times

Post by Jack1960 »

We are currently 7.25 starts on short days, the DOM cant believe that half the office still come in at 6.
It's madness.
ted_e_bear
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Re: New start times

Post by ted_e_bear »

Myself and the very few others that start on time are praying that as these later starts are allegedly due to later arrivals that the mail actually does arrive much later so these clowns hardly have anything to do when they turn up early, currently some of them even start ips for free when they've got their mail in and it's still 30 minutes to start time.

This might sound daft but it would also stop the paid early sorting which fuels them and these days only benefits the people that are due on IPS, if you're stuck being told to fully prep lapsed duties before starting your own there's no advantage.
DiamondSmiles
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Re: New start times

Post by DiamondSmiles »

I wonder about the legality of this should something serious happen to one of these people who come in early. Could Royal Mail be in trouble for not stopping them starting an hour before or is it solely down to the staff member?
Acca Dacca
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Re: New start times

Post by Acca Dacca »

If the work is there ready to be sorted earlier than start time what would be the point in the start time changing to later?

Surely the reason for the later start is because the work isnt arriving till later than currently
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
SpacePhoenix
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Re: New start times

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 11:55
If the work is there ready to be sorted earlier than start time what would be the point in the start time changing to later?

Surely the reason for the later start is because the work isnt arriving till later than currently
One thing I've not seen mentioned anywhere is what RM's plans are for wave 1 dispatch times, if they will stay the same or also be made later by the same amount of time
pieoftheday
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Re: New start times

Post by pieoftheday »

comeracing wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 10:20
New start times announced in our office Mon 19th February, expected to go back an hour from 7.15 to 8.15 , ok ive seen start times at my office from when I first started go from 5.30 am to 6.00 am to 7.00 am to 7.15 am and now possibly 8am or 8.15 am and over the years throughout these various start times at least 80% of my office has come in much earlier than the specified start times ranging from 15 minutes to over an hour, the millions RM must save with staff working for free ,management must be rubbing there hands together with these 8am + starts as they will fully know lots of staff will come in an hour early for free , and who's the first to moan when they collapse duties and give you more lapsing :arrrghhh
Your starting the new start times come Monday? Are you still on 35hr weeks ? We're on 35hrs until the end of March now
norris9
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Re: New start times

Post by norris9 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 11:55
If the work is there ready to be sorted earlier than start time what would be the point in the start time changing to later?

Surely the reason for the later start is because the work isnt arriving till later than currently
From what I understand....the people who have kids to pick up from school can start at their current start time - their start times won't change....

So that surely means the post will be at the office at the normal time....

No idea how these people sort their IPS when there will only be a few on them in the office?

and also....if it is confirmed the parents who have kids to pick up from school can start at their normal times.... what is the actual reason why the rest of us have to start later?....

to annoy us and make us quit so they can replace us with cheaper labour?
sindba
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Re: New start times

Post by sindba »

norris9 wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 15:59


From what I understand....the people who have kids to pick up from school can start at their current start time - their start times won't change....
I don't think you're right.

I think the official line is that RM and CWU are working towards a new "family friendly" policy, which probably means a process where you can put in an application for different start times.
TopperGas
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Re: New start times

Post by TopperGas »

You do have to wonder where these types of rumours start and when they do somebody doesn't just say "that's impossible as the post won't have arrived to be sorted".

Child friendly hours are probably another lie repeated by the CWU when they know they won't exist.
qwerty2
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Re: New start times

Post by qwerty2 »

pieoftheday wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 14:36
comeracing wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 10:20
New start times announced in our office Mon 19th February, expected to go back an hour from 7.15 to 8.15 , ok ive seen start times at my office from when I first started go from 5.30 am to 6.00 am to 7.00 am to 7.15 am and now possibly 8am or 8.15 am and over the years throughout these various start times at least 80% of my office has come in much earlier than the specified start times ranging from 15 minutes to over an hour, the millions RM must save with staff working for free ,management must be rubbing there hands together with these 8am + starts as they will fully know lots of staff will come in an hour early for free , and who's the first to moan when they collapse duties and give you more lapsing :arrrghhh
Your starting the new start times come Monday? Are you still on 35hr weeks ? We're on 35hrs until the end of March now :arrrghhh

These are the new start/ finish times for everyone in the country from April or June or whenever they decide :evil/mad
Kesknight
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Re: New start times

Post by Kesknight »

With these new start times, will everyone finish the same time. IE Full timers and Part timers?
Acca Dacca
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Re: New start times

Post by Acca Dacca »

Kesknight wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:33
With these new start times, will everyone finish the same time. IE Full timers and Part timers?
yeah
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
yubin282
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Re: New start times

Post by yubin282 »

ted_e_bear wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 10:54
Myself and the very few others that start on time are praying that as these later starts are allegedly due to later arrivals that the mail actually does arrive much later so these clowns hardly have anything to do when they turn up early, currently some of them even start ips for free when they've got their mail in and it's still 30 minutes to start time.

This might sound daft but it would also stop the paid early sorting which fuels them and these days only benefits the people that are due on IPS, if you're stuck being told to fully prep lapsed duties before starting your own there's no advantage.
Those early IPS sorters (overtime) really do piss me off the most, glorified strike breakers.
qwerty2
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Re: New start times

Post by qwerty2 »

Kesknight wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:33
With these new start times, will everyone finish the same time. IE Full timers and Part timers?
FT and PT are supposed to finish at same time for years
Park and loop FT and PT working together in your office? How the hell do you finish at different times??