Later start times

[SpacePhoenix]

Been told today unofficially by the rep that we will be starting 19 minutes later. Originally we was an hour later.

All the DOs in our area are due to be starting about an hour later. I think it's going to end up being at least an hour everywhere.

[datasaint]

Full timers actually work just under 34 hours a week, when you take into account paid breaks. So it works out at over £15.50 an hour. £27.5k a year for just under 34 hours a week is decent money for an unskilled job, I can’t find another one that pays as well.

Slightly misleading figure there, you can't inflate the hourly rate by taking it from break and acting like it doesn't exist any more. You are still at work when you take it.

[Nickvilla20]

Been told today unofficially by the rep that we will be starting 19 minutes later. Originally we was an hour later.

All the DOs in our area are due to be starting about an hour later. I think it's going to end up being at least an hour everywhere.

Not necessarily. Many factors come into it as I said in a previous post we already start later anyway. Some offices local to us are starting at 6:20 at the current time.

I get the impression the further you are from a distribution centre the later your probably going to start.

[TopperGas]

Been told today unofficially by the rep that we will be starting 19 minutes later. Originally we was an hour later.

All the DOs in our area are due to be starting about an hour later. I think it's going to end up being at least an hour everywhere.

Not necessarily. Many factors come into it as I said in a previous post we already start later anyway. Some offices local to us are starting at 6:20 at the current time.

I get the impression the further you are from a distribution centre the later your probably going to start.

That's blatantly obvious unless for some odd reason the DO already starts later than it really needs to.

[citypostie]

Been told today unofficially by the rep that we will be starting 19 minutes later. Originally we was an hour later.

All the DOs in our area are due to be starting about an hour later. I think it's going to end up being at least an hour everywhere.

Not necessarily. Many factors come into it as I said in a previous post we already start later anyway. Some offices local to us are starting at 6:20 at the current time.

I get the impression the further you are from a distribution centre the later your probably going to start.

That's blatantly obvious unless for some odd reason the DO already starts later than it really needs to.

We do start later than we need to, by the time we start on Mondays and Tuesdays all the work has been in the office for more than half an hour or more and on Saturday the last wagon arrives as we are starting. No idea why and we have questioned it , supposedly it's so we have no standing about waiting time before we leave the office, in reality it just means we have later finishes than we needed to have

[SpacePhoenix]

Been told today unofficially by the rep that we will be starting 19 minutes later. Originally we was an hour later.

All the DOs in our area are due to be starting about an hour later. I think it's going to end up being at least an hour everywhere.

Not necessarily. Many factors come into it as I said in a previous post we already start later anyway. Some offices local to us are starting at 6:20 at the current time.

I get the impression the further you are from a distribution centre the later your probably going to start.

It doesn't matter how far away they are, it's ALL the DOs in the area that'll be starting about an hour later

[Route1]

I get the impression the further you are from a distribution centre the later your probably going to start.

I remember our rep & com stating we will starting 30 min later as we are relatively close to the MC. This was just before the "surrender vote" last May/June.

I asked another manager from another function. He said thats not true as they will probably feed the further away areas first otherwise these offices wont get mail before 11am. Our MC also feed places that are at the ends of the world. Told the guys in my office and was laughed out the door. The stoopid feckers are sweating it now.

Last month spoke to two different managers not in delivery & both stated according to the "pipeline" the earliest our office will get the last feed would be 8:30am probably later if the mail centre has to process it. One also said our office is looking like 1600 - 1630 last letter. Both said postie job is fecked and will be unrecognisable in a decade.

[Mike G]

Or just treat it as a decently paid job like any other. Go in, work your hours and go home and forget about it.

Honestly, a job in delivery is far from a "decently paid job like any other"

Seems like a pretty delusional statement from a "20+ year veteran" tbh.

Each to their own and good luck for the future

Not at all. Have a look around you at employment opportunities for unskilled labour then get back to me. Yes, we are largely losing every benefit of the job that we all signed up to, but there is nothing out there paying as well for such a comparatively stress-free easy job.

It maybe stress free in your part of reality. Unfortunately for the majority of OPG's that statement is far from reality for a 13 odds quid an hour job. Sorry to break it to you

Really hacks me off when I hear people use the words 'unskilled labour' to beat others down with in terms of reward for the work they do. Why should unskilled as you put it necessarily equal crap pay? And as for a stress free job, wow, your office must be in some sort of parallel universe to the rest of us.

Unfortunately that's the way the UK works, get yourself a degree and whilst you maybe a lazy useless worker you'll still get paid more than somebody with no qualifications/skills who works hard and are good at their job.

Or choose to produce kids you can't actually afford to have and then choose to work minimal part time hours in order to receive optimum benefits and you'll comfortably have a higher disposable income than a full time posties take home pay.

[Nickvilla20]

Been told today unofficially by the rep that we will be starting 19 minutes later. Originally we was an hour later.

All the DOs in our area are due to be starting about an hour later. I think it's going to end up being at least an hour everywhere.

Not necessarily. Many factors come into it as I said in a previous post we already start later anyway. Some offices local to us are starting at 6:20 at the current time.

I get the impression the further you are from a distribution centre the later your probably going to start.

That's blatantly obvious unless for some odd reason the DO already starts later than it really needs to.

I don’t mean Mail centres in mean the actual distribution hubs. If your Mail centre is within a closer distance to either NDC, PRDC ect then it’s less travel time into the Mail centre. Then again this is all theory and you never know with Royal Mail and they will probably impose a 10am start time across the board.

[Nickvilla20]

Been told today unofficially by the rep that we will be starting 19 minutes later. Originally we was an hour later.

All the DOs in our area are due to be starting about an hour later. I think it's going to end up being at least an hour everywhere.

Not necessarily. Many factors come into it as I said in a previous post we already start later anyway. Some offices local to us are starting at 6:20 at the current time.

I get the impression the further you are from a distribution centre the later your probably going to start.

It doesn't matter how far away they are, it's ALL the DOs in the area that'll be starting about an hour later

I don’t know what Mail centre you work at so I can’t comment. Ours is pretty close to the distribution hub and the M25 so that’s the reason I’ve been told we will be starting at that time.

The uncertainty will be over soon anyway and many of us will probably be looking for alternative employment.

[norris9]

Or just treat it as a decently paid job like any other. Go in, work your hours and go home and forget about it.

Honestly, a job in delivery is far from a "decently paid job like any other"

Seems like a pretty delusional statement from a "20+ year veteran" tbh.

Each to their own and good luck for the future

Not at all. Have a look around you at employment opportunities for unskilled labour then get back to me. Yes, we are largely losing every benefit of the job that we all signed up to, but there is nothing out there paying as well for such a comparatively stress-free easy job.

It maybe stress free in your part of reality. Unfortunately for the majority of OPG's that statement is far from reality for a 13 odds quid an hour job. Sorry to break it to you

Really hacks me off when I hear people use the words 'unskilled labour' to beat others down with in terms of reward for the work they do. Why should unskilled as you put it necessarily equal crap pay? And as for a stress free job, wow, your office must be in some sort of parallel universe to the rest of us.

Unfortunately that's the way the UK works, get yourself a degree and whilst you maybe a lazy useless worker you'll still get paid more than somebody with no qualifications/skills who works hard and are good at their job.

Or choose to produce kids you can't actually afford to have and then choose to work minimal part time hours in order to receive optimum benefits and you'll comfortably have a higher disposable income than a full time posties take home pay.

The pay isn't that great when you take into consideration how much rental costs and houses are, especially when living in the more affluent areas of the country. That goes for any job that pays similar. Minimum wage should be £25 an hour based on how much the cost of living is. The problem is - £25 an hour minimum wage would destroy many businesses. It's a housing issue. I have no idea how any postie can get on the property ladder these days unless their partner earns significantly more than them or the postie does excessive overtime.

Most of the time the job is stress free, but for some reason I get put into a massively stressful situation every 4 or 5 months caused by manager's harassment and lies.

Starting later and finishing later will probably be ok for me, depends what the traffic is like coming home from work and whilst out on my round at that ~3pm period (school pick-up).

[SMS1969]

Full timers actually work just under 34 hours a week, when you take into account paid breaks. So it works out at over £15.50 an hour. £27.5k a year for just under 34 hours a week is decent money for an unskilled job, I can’t find another one that pays as well.

Slightly misleading figure there, you can't inflate the hourly rate by taking it from break and acting like it doesn't exist any more. You are still at work when you take it.

Obviously you are at work, but you are not doing any work, so it’s not misleading.

[Tman]

Unfortunately that's the way the UK works, get yourself a degree and whilst you maybe a lazy useless worker you'll still get paid more than somebody with no qualifications/skills who works hard and are good at their job.

That's the way the whole world works. Having a degree is no guarantee of common sense or a work ethic but it's worth far more than merely the supposed ability to "work hard".

[SimonSays]

So we were, until mid-January, starting at 6.54am. It was then changed to the current start time of 7.15am. We've just been told that in June we will now be starting at 8.37am! WTF.

[Valentina@1]

So we were, until mid-January, starting at 6.54am. It was then changed to the current start time of 7.15am. We've just been told that in June we will now be starting at 8.37am! WTF.

Whole this is a shambles,this union is a disgrace