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Later start times
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kazardaimenu
- Posts: 1391
- Joined: 13 Apr 2022, 19:11
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
They might get better results if they had more manageable duties, no van shares and a one tier workforce but that would cost the shareholders a few pounds so they won’t change these things.
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CarryingMGMT
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 310
- Joined: 29 Jul 2023, 22:33
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
Honestly, a job in delivery is far from a "decently paid job like any other"
Seems like a pretty delusional statement from a "20+ year veteran" tbh.
Each to their own and good luck for the future
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CarryingMGMT
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 310
- Joined: 29 Jul 2023, 22:33
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
This is the RMs culture. Has been since they floated on the stock market. Breathe it in deeply. The beatings will continue until morale has improved remember.kazardaimenu wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 10:43They do tend to go after the people who will on occasion make an effort or do a bit of ot. The lazy f*cks and the ot kings get an easy ride![]()
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Philbag70
- Posts: 114
- Joined: 09 Aug 2019, 13:35
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
It's called " performance punishment ".
It's far easier for a manager to bully, intimidate, harass an easy going, compliant, flexible worker than It's is to have a go at the lazy, argumentative, antagonistic chancers.
Very few employers are perfect, but some still treat their staff with respect and value their input thus gaining loyalty and a more productive employee.
Royal Mail is corrupt from the top down. They're so arrogantly blinkered that they think the only way is to do what they like and f#ck everyone else.
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CarryingMGMT
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 310
- Joined: 29 Jul 2023, 22:33
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
Genuinely scary stuff for RM employees. Profit is king now, posties are just meat for the grinder these days. It's sad as f*ck but there's never been a better time to get a new job.Philbag70 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 13:02It's called " performance punishment ".
It's far easier for a manager to bully, intimidate, harass an easy going, compliant, flexible worker than It's is to have a go at the lazy, argumentative, antagonistic chancers.
Very few employers are perfect, but some still treat their staff with respect and value their input thus gaining loyalty and a more productive employee.
Royal Mail is corrupt from the top down. They're so arrogantly blinkered that they think the only way is to do what they like and f#ck everyone else.
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SpacePhoenix
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 12139
- Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
Wouldn't surprise me if the same were to hold true for lower management these days (COM/MCM and lower)
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CarryingMGMT
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 310
- Joined: 29 Jul 2023, 22:33
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
Good! Taking a kick in every week on a conference call, from some bellend who doesn't know their arse from their elbow for almost 50K a year is unacceptable.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 13:23Wouldn't surprise me if the same were to hold true for lower management these days (COM/MCM and lower)
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LouBarlow
- Posts: 4709
- Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56
Re: Later start times
Not at all. Have a look around you at employment opportunities for unskilled labour then get back to me. Yes, we are largely losing every benefit of the job that we all signed up to, but there is nothing out there paying as well for such a comparatively stress-free easy job.CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 12:40Honestly, a job in delivery is far from a "decently paid job like any other"
Seems like a pretty delusional statement from a "20+ year veteran" tbh.
Each to their own and good luck for the future![]()
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CarryingMGMT
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 310
- Joined: 29 Jul 2023, 22:33
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
It maybe stress free in your part of reality. Unfortunately for the majority of OPG's that statement is far from reality for a 13 odds quid an hour job. Sorry to break it to youLouBarlow wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 13:41Not at all. Have a look around you at employment opportunities for unskilled labour then get back to me. Yes, we are largely losing every benefit of the job that we all signed up to, but there is nothing out there paying as well for such a comparatively stress-free easy job.CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 12:40Honestly, a job in delivery is far from a "decently paid job like any other"
Seems like a pretty delusional statement from a "20+ year veteran" tbh.
Each to their own and good luck for the future![]()
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SMS1969
- Posts: 1015
- Joined: 28 Jun 2021, 11:36
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
Full timers actually work just under 34 hours a week, when you take into account paid breaks. So it works out at over £15.50 an hour. £27.5k a year for just under 34 hours a week is decent money for an unskilled job, I can’t find another one that pays as well.
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thefox
- Posts: 1171
- Joined: 24 Aug 2010, 20:09
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
I was compliant and flexible when i first started but it didn't take me long to work out you only get walked all over with that attitude so quickly changed my way of thinking.Philbag70 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 13:02It's called " performance punishment ".
It's far easier for a manager to bully, intimidate, harass an easy going, compliant, flexible worker than It's is to have a go at the lazy, argumentative, antagonistic chancers.
Very few employers are perfect, but some still treat their staff with respect and value their input thus gaining loyalty and a more productive employee.
Royal Mail is corrupt from the top down. They're so arrogantly blinkered that they think the only way is to do what they like and f#ck everyone else.
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ted_e_bear
- Posts: 4080
- Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
Thank you, I've tried pointing that out at least twice and each time got comments saying you can't count paid breaks and delivery supplement but as far as I'm concerned my hourly rate is the amount I get paid divided by the amount of hours I have to work to get it.
Of course as soon as overtime over 37 hours comes into it then that figure gets watered down.
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SMS1969
- Posts: 1015
- Joined: 28 Jun 2021, 11:36
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
Yes, some will try to lower the rate so it appears worse than it actually is, usually the ones who insist how everything about the job is bad. Some of it can be, but not all of it is. I’m happy with my 4 days work and 3 days rest a week.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 15:32Thank you, I've tried pointing that out at least twice and each time got comments saying you can't count paid breaks and delivery supplement but as far as I'm concerned my hourly rate is the amount I get paid divided by the amount of hours I have to work to get it.
Of course as soon as overtime over 37 hours comes into it then that figure gets watered down.
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DiamondSmiles
- Posts: 498
- Joined: 05 Feb 2009, 20:03
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
Really hacks me off when I hear people use the words 'unskilled labour' to beat others down with in terms of reward for the work they do. Why should unskilled as you put it necessarily equal crap pay? And as for a stress free job, wow, your office must be in some sort of parallel universe to the rest of us.CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 13:44It maybe stress free in your part of reality. Unfortunately for the majority of OPG's that statement is far from reality for a 13 odds quid an hour job. Sorry to break it to youLouBarlow wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 13:41Not at all. Have a look around you at employment opportunities for unskilled labour then get back to me. Yes, we are largely losing every benefit of the job that we all signed up to, but there is nothing out there paying as well for such a comparatively stress-free easy job.CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 12:40Honestly, a job in delivery is far from a "decently paid job like any other"
Seems like a pretty delusional statement from a "20+ year veteran" tbh.
Each to their own and good luck for the future![]()
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CarryingMGMT
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 310
- Joined: 29 Jul 2023, 22:33
- Gender: Male
Re: Later start times
You are quoting the wrong post if that's how you feel lolDiamondSmiles wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 16:05Really hacks me off when I hear people use the words 'unskilled labour' to beat others down with in terms of reward for the work they do. Why should unskilled as you put it necessarily equal crap pay? And as for a stress free job, wow, your office must be in some sort of parallel universe to the rest of us.CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 13:44It maybe stress free in your part of reality. Unfortunately for the majority of OPG's that statement is far from reality for a 13 odds quid an hour job. Sorry to break it to youLouBarlow wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 13:41Not at all. Have a look around you at employment opportunities for unskilled labour then get back to me. Yes, we are largely losing every benefit of the job that we all signed up to, but there is nothing out there paying as well for such a comparatively stress-free easy job.CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 12:40Honestly, a job in delivery is far from a "decently paid job like any other"
Seems like a pretty delusional statement from a "20+ year veteran" tbh.
Each to their own and good luck for the future![]()
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