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Royal Mail losing more post than ever as deliveries to wrong addresses soar

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https://inews.co.uk/news/royal-mail-los ... TO=newsnow

Customers and postal workers said lost or misdelivered post has soared in the last year - with parcels increasingly going to the wrong address


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Royal Mail customers filed nearly 900,000 complaints over lost post in 2022-23, according to Ofcom’s post monitoring report

Royal Mail lost a record number of letters and parcels in the last year, with nearly 900,000 complaints made about the issue.

Postal workers and those missing vital letters told i that parcels being delivered to the wrong addresses was becoming an increasingly common problem.

One customer from North Devon said he realised an important parcel was misdelivered because Royal Mail uploaded a photograph of the wrong front door.


Industry sources said the postal service has become increasingly understaffed in recent years and workers have been under pressure to hit unachievable targets, leading to some employees “cutting corners”.

Posties also said morale was at an all-time low, with long-serving staff members quitting the workforce, leaving behind less experienced workers with a high turnover rate.

One postal worker from County Durham said the number of people asking their neighbours about missing Royal Mail post has gone “through the roof” recently. He noticed 10 posts on a Facebook group for his delivery area during the Christmas period alone.

Ofcom’s annual post monitoring report, published last month, found compensation payments made by Royal Mail jumped by nearly 50 per cent to £26.2m in 2022-23, compared with £17.8m the previous year.

The report stated that “loss” was Royal Mail’s highest complaint category, with 898,000 complaints – up 43 per cent from 2021-22.

Nick Woodrow, 64, from North Devon, said he wanted to complain to Royal Mail after his parcel was recently delivered to somebody else’s front door.

“Royal Mail sent me a photograph of a white front door and my front door is brown,” he told i.

He was unable to retrieve the parcel after it was misdelivered, but eventually got a replacement from the vendor.

Others have complained that they have been sent proof of delivery pictures of the “wrong house” which is often the “same number on a different street”.

One customer claimed their passport was delivered to the wrong address and another said they have lost a necklace and book-binding materials because of an incorrect delivery.

Tara Banyard, 51, from Bromley, told i she has been left “unbelievably stressed” as her partner is a recent amputee and relies on NHS letters for appointments that have arrived late. Her mother passed away last year and she missed important legal and insurance documents.

A postal worker from County Durham said parcels are delivered to the wrong address due to added pressure on staff to deliver more post coupled with a less experienced workforce due to long-serving members leaving.

He said: “We used to be well-known for reliability of delivering parcels. A lot of the experienced staff have gone so now parcels go to the wrong houses all the time.

“We’ve lost the experienced staff so now we’re getting people put on walks without any training.

“I’m on my own walk. I know I can’t get everything done so I’m just trying to do my best – that’s what I do every day.”

Last November, Royal Mail was fined £5.6m by Ofcom for falling short of the required standards of delivery and the company was put under pressure by repeated strikes by disgruntled workers.

A postal worker in south-west England told i that some of her colleagues have increasingly “cut corners” because they do not have enough time to finish their delivery round.

“They’ve been given more work with less time to do it in,” she said. “Unfortunately, people start to cut corners. Not everybody – but some do.”

She has increasingly heard of post coming back to the delivery office after being sent to the wrong address – particularly the “same number but the wrong road”.

“It’s not impossible to deliver to the wrong road but it’s more likely to happen when you’re in a rush,” she added.

i previously reported that postal workers were urged to prioritise parcels over letters in the run-up to Christmas, meaning some letters sent in early December arrived just before New Year – while others did not come until January.

Postal workers and customers have accused Royal Mail of not fulfilling the universal service obligation, which requires the company to deliver letters six days a week.

In response, Royal Mail said the service does not operate a policy of prioritising parcels but added that at particularly busy times, like Christmas, “it may be necessary to clear parcels first for the safety of our colleagues and keep all mail, including letters, moving efficiently”.

A spokesperson from Royal Mail said: “The vast majority of the billions of letters and parcels we deliver every year are done so successfully and on time, with our latest published data showing three quarters of first-class mail arriving the following day, and 96 per cent within three days of posting.

“We strongly encourage any customer who experiences a substantial delay to their post, or a loss, to contact our customer services team directly so we can investigate. Trust in our brand is very important to us and we were pleased to be awarded four out of five stars for trust by Citizen’s Advice, coming joint first in their most recent survey.”

In response to the claims made about less experienced staff members, they continued: “Supporting our postmen and women in their roles is vital. We are actively recruiting to fill positions and help ensure we have appropriate numbers in place to manage the workload in a fair and balanced way. This is an ongoing process.

“New starters are given the training and equipment appropriate for their role, which includes partnering with experienced colleagues so they can understand the needs and geography of a route, and a PDA [personal digital assistant ] that maps out and provides directions within the area they are delivering to.”
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That's casuals, untrained and on delivery. Plus the ridiculous pressure to doorstep everything.
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Too much work and too much pressure , we are just like evri now, me, i card everyone i bet in the near future i'll be called in and asked why im not delivering parcels, until as of such a time when a postie will not be held accountable for any parcels left in unsecure safe places which is 95% i will carry on carding everyone ,Royal Mail and their customers have to take responsibility not me its that simple.
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guardianangel wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 17:58
Too much work and too much pressure , we are just like evri now, me, i card everyone i bet in the near future i'll be called in and asked why im not delivering parcels, until as of such a time when a postie will not be held accountable for any parcels left in unsecure safe places which is 95% i will carry on carding everyone ,Royal Mail and their customers have to take responsibility not me its that simple.
The little old lady at number 2 would rather have her flowers left in her unlocked porch than to receive a 739 inviting her to collect her now wilted, dead and useless flowers from a never-open customer service point.

A lot of parcels have the word “Safeplace” on the RM label and a leave-safe location specified next to it. For these parcels the customer (the shipper/retailer) assumes all responsibility if the recipient later denies receipt. As long as you’ve scanned on the doorstep and took a satisfactory POD picture showing you have left it in the nominated spot there can be no blame or comebacks on you.
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Smoothbackground wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 19:50
guardianangel wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 17:58
Too much work and too much pressure , we are just like evri now, me, i card everyone i bet in the near future i'll be called in and asked why im not delivering parcels, until as of such a time when a postie will not be held accountable for any parcels left in unsecure safe places which is 95% i will carry on carding everyone ,Royal Mail and their customers have to take responsibility not me its that simple.
The little old lady at number 2 would rather have her flowers left in her unlocked porch than to receive a 739 inviting her to collect her now wilted, dead and useless flowers from a never-open customer service point.

A lot of parcels have the word “Safeplace” on the RM label and a leave-safe location specified next to it. For these parcels the customer (the shipper/retailer) assumes all responsibility if the recipient later denies receipt. As long as you’ve scanned on the doorstep and took a satisfactory POD picture showing you have left it in the nominated spot there can be no blame or comebacks on you.
and what if no said safeplace is available? a nominated safeplace may be fine for the recipient but not by the postie, left under cover and out of sight in their green dustbin isn't an option for us, perhaps rm ought to specify locations not allowed under any circumstances when they add safeplace options
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Re: Royal Mail losing more post than ever as deliveries to wrong addresses soar

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korky wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 21:11
Smoothbackground wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 19:50
guardianangel wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 17:58
Too much work and too much pressure , we are just like evri now, me, i card everyone i bet in the near future i'll be called in and asked why im not delivering parcels, until as of such a time when a postie will not be held accountable for any parcels left in unsecure safe places which is 95% i will carry on carding everyone ,Royal Mail and their customers have to take responsibility not me its that simple.
The little old lady at number 2 would rather have her flowers left in her unlocked porch than to receive a 739 inviting her to collect her now wilted, dead and useless flowers from a never-open customer service point.

A lot of parcels have the word “Safeplace” on the RM label and a leave-safe location specified next to it. For these parcels the customer (the shipper/retailer) assumes all responsibility if the recipient later denies receipt. As long as you’ve scanned on the doorstep and took a satisfactory POD picture showing you have left it in the nominated spot there can be no blame or comebacks on you.
and what if no said safeplace is available? a nominated safeplace may be fine for the recipient but not by the postie, left under cover and out of sight in their green dustbin isn't an option for us, perhaps rm ought to specify locations not allowed under any circumstances when they add safeplace options
I rarely get asked to leave parcels in bins, you have to sense customers are now aware that's not a reasonable safe place.

If somebody is carding "everything" they are just creating extra work for themselves attempting to redelivery items the next day and then writing out further 739's if they are still out.
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TopperGas wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 22:25
korky wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 21:11
Smoothbackground wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 19:50
guardianangel wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 17:58
Too much work and too much pressure , we are just like evri now, me, i card everyone i bet in the near future i'll be called in and asked why im not delivering parcels, until as of such a time when a postie will not be held accountable for any parcels left in unsecure safe places which is 95% i will carry on carding everyone ,Royal Mail and their customers have to take responsibility not me its that simple.
The little old lady at number 2 would rather have her flowers left in her unlocked porch than to receive a 739 inviting her to collect her now wilted, dead and useless flowers from a never-open customer service point.

A lot of parcels have the word “Safeplace” on the RM label and a leave-safe location specified next to it. For these parcels the customer (the shipper/retailer) assumes all responsibility if the recipient later denies receipt. As long as you’ve scanned on the doorstep and took a satisfactory POD picture showing you have left it in the nominated spot there can be no blame or comebacks on you.
and what if no said safeplace is available? a nominated safeplace may be fine for the recipient but not by the postie, left under cover and out of sight in their green dustbin isn't an option for us, perhaps rm ought to specify locations not allowed under any circumstances when they add safeplace options
I rarely get asked to leave parcels in bins, you have to sense customers are now aware that's not a reasonable safe place.

If somebody is carding "everything" they are just creating extra work for themselves attempting to redelivery items the next day and then writing out further 739's if they are still out.
Blue bin is the most requested safe place.... And blue bin is not acceptable with RM. Except gaffer says do it.
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enskied wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 16:04
That's casuals, untrained and on delivery. Plus the ridiculous pressure to doorstep everything.
Just like casuals in mc's get blamed on all the missorts absolute joke.
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Sean06 wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 22:57
enskied wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 16:04
That's casuals, untrained and on delivery. Plus the ridiculous pressure to doorstep everything.
Just like casuals in mc's get blamed on all the missorts absolute joke.
They don't really get any training. It's just the "arse covering" H&S stuff then it's here's the work area, here's the work, get on with it.
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korky wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 21:11
Smoothbackground wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 19:50
guardianangel wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 17:58
Too much work and too much pressure , we are just like evri now, me, i card everyone i bet in the near future i'll be called in and asked why im not delivering parcels, until as of such a time when a postie will not be held accountable for any parcels left in unsecure safe places which is 95% i will carry on carding everyone ,Royal Mail and their customers have to take responsibility not me its that simple.
The little old lady at number 2 would rather have her flowers left in her unlocked porch than to receive a 739 inviting her to collect her now wilted, dead and useless flowers from a never-open customer service point.

A lot of parcels have the word “Safeplace” on the RM label and a leave-safe location specified next to it. For these parcels the customer (the shipper/retailer) assumes all responsibility if the recipient later denies receipt. As long as you’ve scanned on the doorstep and took a satisfactory POD picture showing you have left it in the nominated spot there can be no blame or comebacks on you.
and what if no said safeplace is available? a nominated safeplace may be fine for the recipient but not by the postie, left under cover and out of sight in their green dustbin isn't an option for us, perhaps rm ought to specify locations not allowed under any circumstances when they add safeplace options
The small print ,a safeplace is only safe if a postie deems it safe and if anyone else can access the parcel means its unsecure ,i have lots of people put safeplace down as leave in porch when in reality its a canopy,so i always tick the box safeplace not safe,that just covers me,so until the time comes when royal mail say to me i can leave it where ever the customer says i will carry on with my 739's.
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guardianangel wrote:
14 Jan 2024, 13:38
korky wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 21:11
Smoothbackground wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 19:50
guardianangel wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 17:58
Too much work and too much pressure , we are just like evri now, me, i card everyone i bet in the near future i'll be called in and asked why im not delivering parcels, until as of such a time when a postie will not be held accountable for any parcels left in unsecure safe places which is 95% i will carry on carding everyone ,Royal Mail and their customers have to take responsibility not me its that simple.
The little old lady at number 2 would rather have her flowers left in her unlocked porch than to receive a 739 inviting her to collect her now wilted, dead and useless flowers from a never-open customer service point.

A lot of parcels have the word “Safeplace” on the RM label and a leave-safe location specified next to it. For these parcels the customer (the shipper/retailer) assumes all responsibility if the recipient later denies receipt. As long as you’ve scanned on the doorstep and took a satisfactory POD picture showing you have left it in the nominated spot there can be no blame or comebacks on you.
and what if no said safeplace is available? a nominated safeplace may be fine for the recipient but not by the postie, left under cover and out of sight in their green dustbin isn't an option for us, perhaps rm ought to specify locations not allowed under any circumstances when they add safeplace options
The small print ,a safeplace is only safe if a postie deems it safe and if anyone else can access the parcel means its unsecure ,i have lots of people put safeplace down as leave in porch when in reality its a canopy,so i always tick the box safeplace not safe,that just covers me,so until the time comes when royal mail say to me i can leave it where ever the customer says i will carry on with my 739's.
You can’t get in trouble for leaving a 739. The majority of the time safe places aren’t actually that safe.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 08:26

“New starters are given the training and equipment appropriate for their role, which includes partnering with experienced colleagues so they can understand the needs and geography of a route, and a PDA [personal digital assistant ] that maps out and provides directions within the area they are delivering to.”

No they are not, there is a shortage of PDAs and many of them are still walking round in jogging pants. Royal Mail in the last few years have piled everything on us and if experienced staff are finding completing the duties difficult, how are new staff expected to complete?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Post by guardianangel »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
14 Jan 2024, 19:18
guardianangel wrote:
14 Jan 2024, 13:38
korky wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 21:11
Smoothbackground wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 19:50
guardianangel wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 17:58
Too much work and too much pressure , we are just like evri now, me, i card everyone i bet in the near future i'll be called in and asked why im not delivering parcels, until as of such a time when a postie will not be held accountable for any parcels left in unsecure safe places which is 95% i will carry on carding everyone ,Royal Mail and their customers have to take responsibility not me its that simple.
The little old lady at number 2 would rather have her flowers left in her unlocked porch than to receive a 739 inviting her to collect her now wilted, dead and useless flowers from a never-open customer service point.

A lot of parcels have the word “Safeplace” on the RM label and a leave-safe location specified next to it. For these parcels the customer (the shipper/retailer) assumes all responsibility if the recipient later denies receipt. As long as you’ve scanned on the doorstep and took a satisfactory POD picture showing you have left it in the nominated spot there can be no blame or comebacks on you.
and what if no said safeplace is available? a nominated safeplace may be fine for the recipient but not by the postie, left under cover and out of sight in their green dustbin isn't an option for us, perhaps rm ought to specify locations not allowed under any circumstances when they add safeplace options
The small print ,a safeplace is only safe if a postie deems it safe and if anyone else can access the parcel means its unsecure ,i have lots of people put safeplace down as leave in porch when in reality its a canopy,so i always tick the box safeplace not safe,that just covers me,so until the time comes when royal mail say to me i can leave it where ever the customer says i will carry on with my 739's.
You can’t get in trouble for leaving a 739. The majority of the time safe places aren’t actually that safe.
EXACTLY :Very Happy
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Sean06 wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 22:57
enskied wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 16:04
That's casuals, untrained and on delivery. Plus the ridiculous pressure to doorstep everything.
Just like casuals in mc's get blamed on all the missorts absolute joke.
The fact is they do, it's not a joke. They just don't believe it yet
I made many mistakes when I started and got far more training than any new starter.
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We have one postie of about 25 years who regularly just ditches parcels in random porches (example: has 3 parcels on his list for 98 filigree street, opens porch of said house and leaves parcels for 12 acacia avenue, 9 filigree street and 48 tosspot lane. Later gets to those addresses and wonders where the packets are, then scans 98 filigree's 3 packets as inaccessible.) Nothing ever gets done about it, the RDC (often me) gets told by a manager to go collect his missorts first and take them to the correct location as "that's just him, there's nothing we can do about it."
Then they ball out a new recruit for leaving one wrong packet at 13 grove close instead of 13 grove green.
The company is a total shambles