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Network review and later start times

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Network review and later start times

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Have I got it wrong, or were we not meant to be notified in December of the new start times due to the Network review. I’m sure the CWU promised they would brief us.

Then again, maybe I missed it
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The start time change has been delayed till April, or later for some offices. I believe the time changes are due to be published by the end of the month/early February. I think they have been delayed as the CWU is still trying to reduce the upheaval as much as possible. Whether they will be successful, who knows?
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Cwu rep told us 99% of offices are only getting moved 15mins later due to royal mail having no clue how to organise all the different networks.
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tonyt450 wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 07:22
Cwu rep told us 99% of offices are only getting moved 15mins later due to royal mail having no clue how to organise all the different networks.
:left: :left: :left: :left: :left:

It's going to be at least 30 mins. I think a minimum of 1hr is more likely.
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I would be happy with and hour.
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CWU have already confirmed it’s a Maximum of 15mins for hundreds of offices , hopefully that includes mine .
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Maybe the business has realised that by moving the times by an hour would have a negative impact on various areas of the network.

Personally moving the times by an hour or two could have an environmental problem by causing more congestion on the roads. I see problems trying to get into blocks of flats, especially if the trade button cuts off at say midday.

A question was asked about specials and would we still have to deliver them before 1pm. It will become problematic if we have less time to deliver the specials.

Like everything in this mad business nobody really has a clue.
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15 minutes later start with no change in finish time would be a winner.
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The plan to move to from air to rail, which was going to cause later arrivals at mail centre's has been put back from January to June I've heard.
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chickenwittle wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 15:55
CWU have already confirmed it’s a Maximum of 15mins for hundreds of offices , hopefully that includes mine .
The union are totally deluded if they think it'll be just 15mins. For that to happen the work would have to arrive within 15mins of the current timings. That's physically impossible. It WILL be an absolute minimum of half an hour. Anyone in the union who says otherwise is talking out their arse.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 19:32
chickenwittle wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 15:55
CWU have already confirmed it’s a Maximum of 15mins for hundreds of offices , hopefully that includes mine .
The union are totally deluded if they think it'll be just 15mins. For that to happen the work would have to arrive within 15mins of the current timings. That's physically impossible. It WILL be an absolute minimum of half an hour. Anyone in the union who says otherwise is talking out their arse.
This isnt correct at all and in a previous thread it has already been pointed out to you why this isnt the case.

As it stands mail arrives in DO's waaaaay earlier than most peoples start times and will still continue to do so when the changes come in. So its not a like for like impact change. DO's will be able to absorb much of that change without too much upheaval to staff. The key thing is that there is no down time between wave 1 and 2 arrivals. Which a 15/30 minute change would be enough to mitigate against.

Unless the figures that have been shown are way way off which I don't believe they are.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 19:32
chickenwittle wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 15:55
CWU have already confirmed it’s a Maximum of 15mins for hundreds of offices , hopefully that includes mine .
The union are totally deluded if they think it'll be just 15mins. For that to happen the work would have to arrive within 15mins of the current timings. That's physically impossible. It WILL be an absolute minimum of half an hour. Anyone in the union who says otherwise is talking out their arse.
I believe you’re right. I can see my office being 90 minutes.
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Everyone is talking about when the mail arrives into offices but isn’t the hidden agenda how late they can get the last parcels into offices to connect.
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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 21:27
Everyone is talking about when the mail arrives into offices but isn’t the hidden agenda how late they can get the last parcels into offices to connect.
That's what I thought, it still costs them a fortune to get the late parcels delivered, thought they would have addressed that by now without having to mess with the whole operation.
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Re: Network review and later start times

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Ren Hoëk wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 20:09
SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 19:32
chickenwittle wrote:
10 Jan 2024, 15:55
CWU have already confirmed it’s a Maximum of 15mins for hundreds of offices , hopefully that includes mine .
The union are totally deluded if they think it'll be just 15mins. For that to happen the work would have to arrive within 15mins of the current timings. That's physically impossible. It WILL be an absolute minimum of half an hour. Anyone in the union who says otherwise is talking out their arse.
This isnt correct at all and in a previous thread it has already been pointed out to you why this isnt the case.

As it stands mail arrives in DO's waaaaay earlier than most peoples start times and will still continue to do so when the changes come in. So its not a like for like impact change. DO's will be able to absorb much of that change without too much upheaval to staff. The key thing is that there is no down time between wave 1 and 2 arrivals. Which a 15/30 minute change would be enough to mitigate against.

Unless the figures that have been shown are way way off which I don't believe they are.
The late stuff will be at least an hour later arriving at the Inward MCs. However much later it is both waves will be made later by the same amount. Then by that time the wave 2 is going to get stuck in traffic.

I can see RM wanting to expand on LAT by making the start times in DOs late enough so that they all go out on normal walks.

You've got more chance of winning the Euromillions jacpot a dozen times in a row then you've got of the changes being just 15mins in DOs