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jbo5066
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Post by jbo5066 »

Saw headlines and a short video this morning, two undercover reporters from the Sunday Times went to work in Southampton and London posing as agency and secretly recorded RM prioritizing parcels over letters ... Couldn't read the whole article as it's covered by a paywall 😕
qwerty2
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jbo5066 wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 07:43
Saw headlines and a short video this morning, two undercover reporters from the Sunday Times went to work in Southampton and London posing as agency and secretly recorded RM prioritizing parcels over letters ... Couldn't read the whole article as it's covered by a paywall 😕
You can read a bit on the front page here -
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpspr ... c.png.webp
jbo5066
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What a pointless endeavour. Everyone knows that this is the case. You don’t need undercover reporters to expose an issue that has even been discussed by the government for nigh on a year now. They don’t care. I’d argue that people don’t care either. They would rather be their tat from Amazon than a bank statement.

The only issue would be hospital appointments etc, but even my 70+ year old father deals with this online now, so they are dying out too.
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neil1969
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LouBarlow wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 08:39
What a pointless endeavour. Everyone knows that this is the case. You don’t need undercover reporters to expose an issue that has even been discussed by the government for nigh on a year now. They don’t care. I’d argue that people don’t care either. They would rather be their tat from Amazon than a bank statement.

The only issue would be hospital appointments etc, but even my 70+ year old father deals with this online now, so they are dying out too.
That's a pretty big issue!
NHS Cumbria does not send hospital appointments online under any circumstances.
scoobydo79
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Yet Offcom say it’s not happening? What does that tell You?
Jb1969
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scoobydo79 wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 13:37
Yet Offcom say it’s not happening? What does that tell You?
OfWat tell us sewerage does not get put into rivers etc!
Ofcom tell us that this does not happen & certainly does not come from the top.
Starting to think anything starting with of & is a regulator might not be telling the truth!
LouBarlow
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neil1969 wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 13:30
LouBarlow wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 08:39
What a pointless endeavour. Everyone knows that this is the case. You don’t need undercover reporters to expose an issue that has even been discussed by the government for nigh on a year now. They don’t care. I’d argue that people don’t care either. They would rather be their tat from Amazon than a bank statement.

The only issue would be hospital appointments etc, but even my 70+ year old father deals with this online now, so they are dying out too.
That's a pretty big issue!
NHS Cumbria does not send hospital appointments online under any circumstances.
That’s interesting. If that is the case, then yes it is a massive issue.
gfte
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https://archive.is/2K04u

Undercover at Royal Mail: ‘Never mind the letters, just take the parcels’
TopperGas
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What is the outcome if RM are ever found to have broken the law, as we keep hearing it's "illegal" to prioritise parcels but the worst RM ever seem to get is a, in relative terms, a small annual fine from OFCOM?
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LouBarlow wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 14:54
neil1969 wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 13:30
LouBarlow wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 08:39
What a pointless endeavour. Everyone knows that this is the case. You don’t need undercover reporters to expose an issue that has even been discussed by the government for nigh on a year now. They don’t care. I’d argue that people don’t care either. They would rather be their tat from Amazon than a bank statement.

The only issue would be hospital appointments etc, but even my 70+ year old father deals with this online now, so they are dying out too.
That's a pretty big issue!
NHS Cumbria does not send hospital appointments online under any circumstances.
That’s interesting. If that is the case, then yes it is a massive issue.
I wonder how many patients fail to attend appointments in Cumbria compared to an NHS which uses email?
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TopperGas wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 17:12
What is the outcome if RM are ever found to have broken the law, as we keep hearing it's "illegal" to prioritise parcels but the worst RM ever seem to get is a, in relative terms, a small annual fine from OFCOM?
Because that's what it says in the Postal Services Act. if the 'punishment' for breaking the provision
of the Act is stated in the Act itself I don't think that anybody's going to do any porridge for it:
Financial penalties

(1)If the Commission is satisfied that a licence holder—

(a)has contravened any condition of his licence, or

(b)is contravening any such condition,

the Commission may impose on the licence holder a penalty of such amount as is reasonable.

(2)No such penalty shall exceed 10 per cent. of the turnover of the licence holder (determined in accordance with provisions specified in an order made by the Secretary of State).

(3)The Commission may impose a penalty under this section in respect of a contravention of a licence condition irrespective of whether it has made or may make a final or provisional order in respect of that contravention.
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TopperGas wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 17:14
I wonder how many patients fail to attend appointments in Cumbria compared to an NHS which uses email?
Probably not many, as appointments are so far in the future. Another victory from our compassionate government.
I'm turning purple!
neil1969
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TopperGas wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 17:14
LouBarlow wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 14:54
neil1969 wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 13:30
LouBarlow wrote:
17 Dec 2023, 08:39
What a pointless endeavour. Everyone knows that this is the case. You don’t need undercover reporters to expose an issue that has even been discussed by the government for nigh on a year now. They don’t care. I’d argue that people don’t care either. They would rather be their tat from Amazon than a bank statement.

The only issue would be hospital appointments etc, but even my 70+ year old father deals with this online now, so they are dying out too.
That's a pretty big issue!
NHS Cumbria does not send hospital appointments online under any circumstances.
That’s interesting. If that is the case, then yes it is a massive issue.
I wonder how many patients fail to attend appointments in Cumbria compared to an NHS which uses email?
I missed one two weeks ago.Rang my manager in Carlisle to complain & he said his son had missed a appointment too.