ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE
ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!
Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
-
Diehard
- Posts: 4
- Joined: 15 Oct 2023, 13:06
- Gender: Male
Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
Been here since August and had to work every Sunday at a different office delivering parcels. My office is shut on a Sunday so it’s not part of the working week. So, my days off go Mon/Tues, then Weds/Thurs then Fri/Sat but no facility to include Sundays!
Not only is this demoralising for family life but it means I work 7 seven days straight for 2 weeks out of every 3. This is not compensated by having 1 week with 4 days off as I have to work on the feffing Sunday
I can’t see why Sundays can be added to my rotation??
Thoughts?
Not only is this demoralising for family life but it means I work 7 seven days straight for 2 weeks out of every 3. This is not compensated by having 1 week with 4 days off as I have to work on the feffing Sunday
I can’t see why Sundays can be added to my rotation??
Thoughts?
-
rubberbond
- Posts: 1497
- Joined: 24 Aug 2014, 16:03
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
You must have known what you were letting yourself in for when you applied and then accepted the job offer ,as did I when I joined , so you don’t seem to have much of a basis for complaining.
-
SMS1969
- Posts: 1015
- Joined: 28 Jun 2021, 11:36
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
Because they want rid of the parcels, as they apparently make them the most money. Personally I’d have asked before I took the job on. At least you get two days off together every week.
-
yellowbelly
- Posts: 3713
- Joined: 23 Jun 2015, 15:51
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
As long as the 2 weeks 7 days are not consecutive (so you're not working 14 full days) then legally (in terms of rest days) then RM are doing
nothing wrong.
ACAS:
Morally and in terms of keeping the workforce content - it's abysmal!By law (The Working Time Regulations 1998), employees and workers have the right to the following rest:
during the working day – 20-minute rest break if they're expected to work more than 6 hours during the day
between working days – 11 hours' rest between finishing work and starting work
between working weeks – 24 hours every 7 working days or 48 hours every 14 working days
each year – holiday entitlement
-
Nickvilla20
- Posts: 784
- Joined: 13 May 2013, 07:30
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
They wonder why they can’t retain staff if you never get a full weekend off.
-
yubin282
- Posts: 990
- Joined: 25 Jul 2014, 19:18
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
It still surprises me there isn't more Sunday working, considering newer starters have it in their contract. Instead RM will dangle the "sunday working" carrot, actively trying to piss off their more senior workers.
-
Jen1
- Posts: 231
- Joined: 31 Oct 2018, 12:00
- Gender: Female
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
You get a Saturday off!!!!!
I’ve worked here for 5 years and I’ve not had a single Saturday off this entire year, I’m supposed to get 1 in 6 off
Management and Union excuse is that they’re so understaffed and nobody will work their day off if it’s a Saturday (that’s not my f***ing fault)
Our latest recruit who just does parcels gets Mon and Tues off every week and has to work every Sat and Sun he looks miserable, and he starts at 1.30pm and doesn’t finish till 7.30pm so really not much chance for a social life that can’t be good for anyone’s mental health
We really have just thrown the new starters to the wolves I hope everyone on a new contract gets together and withdraws their Sunday labour until the work life social life balance is addressed
I’ve worked here for 5 years and I’ve not had a single Saturday off this entire year, I’m supposed to get 1 in 6 off
Management and Union excuse is that they’re so understaffed and nobody will work their day off if it’s a Saturday (that’s not my f***ing fault)
Our latest recruit who just does parcels gets Mon and Tues off every week and has to work every Sat and Sun he looks miserable, and he starts at 1.30pm and doesn’t finish till 7.30pm so really not much chance for a social life that can’t be good for anyone’s mental health
We really have just thrown the new starters to the wolves I hope everyone on a new contract gets together and withdraws their Sunday labour until the work life social life balance is addressed
-
SpacePhoenix
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 12139
- Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
That would probably be construed as being unofficial industrial action by RM as Sunday working is likely in their contracts
-
Jen1
- Posts: 231
- Joined: 31 Oct 2018, 12:00
- Gender: Female
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
Maybe they should make it official thenSpacePhoenix wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023, 10:19That would probably be construed as being unofficial industrial action by RM as Sunday working is likely in their contracts
-
ted_e_bear
- Posts: 4079
- Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
yellowbelly wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023, 09:26As long as the 2 weeks 7 days are not consecutive (so you're not working 14 full days) then legally (in terms of rest days) then RM are doing
nothing wrong.
ACAS:
We've got guys who work their days off every week, they also work every Sunday parcels on overtime so unless they're on leave they're constantly contravening the above rest between working weeks rules, surely there should be something set in royal mails pay system that wouldn't permit this to happen.By law (The Working Time Regulations 1998), employees and workers have the right to the following rest:
during the working day – 20-minute rest break if they're expected to work more than 6 hours during the day
between working days – 11 hours' rest between finishing work and starting work
between working weeks – 24 hours every 7 working days or 48 hours every 14 working days
each year – holiday entitlement
-
iHateD2Ds
- Posts: 546
- Joined: 16 Apr 2008, 16:33
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
To be blunt, you are contracted and If it's affecting your family life then you need to look for another job because RM do not care about individuals.
The new contracts are shite.
The new contracts are shite.
Last edited by iHateD2Ds on 10 Dec 2023, 11:47, edited 1 time in total.
-
qwerty2
- Posts: 2077
- Joined: 30 Jun 2009, 00:42
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
You knew you had to work Sundays before you took the jobDiehard wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023, 08:48Been here since August and had to work every Sunday at a different office delivering parcels. My office is shut on a Sunday so it’s not part of the working week. So, my days off go Mon/Tues, then Weds/Thurs then Fri/Sat but no facility to include Sundays!
Not only is this demoralising for family life but it means I work 7 seven days straight for 2 weeks out of every 3. This is not compensated by having 1 week with 4 days off as I have to work on the feffing Sunday
I can’t see why Sundays can be added to my rotation??
Thoughts?
If you don’t like it stop moaning
-
LouBarlow
- Posts: 4709
- Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
That is a terrible attitude. We are all doing the same job and we should support each other.qwerty2 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023, 11:47You knew you had to work Sundays before you took the jobDiehard wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023, 08:48Been here since August and had to work every Sunday at a different office delivering parcels. My office is shut on a Sunday so it’s not part of the working week. So, my days off go Mon/Tues, then Weds/Thurs then Fri/Sat but no facility to include Sundays!
Not only is this demoralising for family life but it means I work 7 seven days straight for 2 weeks out of every 3. This is not compensated by having 1 week with 4 days off as I have to work on the feffing Sunday
I can’t see why Sundays can be added to my rotation??
Thoughts?
If you don’t like it stop moaningand leave
![]()
-
eggraidonmojo
- Posts: 120
- Joined: 06 Nov 2012, 16:44
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
Although it depends on area, I heard that as more new contracts start, Sundays off should be rota'd into your duty pattern. It is a lot down to your area/local rep though, and whether they can do a deal with management.
-
Clappedoutpostie
- Posts: 1258
- Joined: 05 Nov 2021, 21:46
- Gender: Male
Re: Sundays - why can’t aren’t they part of the working week?
You are lucky compared to our new starters, they get a fixed Monday and Tuesday off every week. Only time they get either a Saturday or Sunday off is if they book annual leave.