Ballot papers out.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 18 Mar 2008, 17:29

Crap!!! No branch so no vote so no voice

Anyway with me it's hit and miss whether I get any coms from the union (but it might have something to do with my postman

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Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 18 Mar 2008, 17:43

I voted Yes to reject but the question itself is an odd one - how many will vote No thinking they are rejecting the offer when in fact they will be accepting it.

The Union could have made the question easier in my opinion, or at least not as liable for confusion.

A simple question of:

Do you accept Royal Mails position on Pension reform.

No and Yes -

no confusion, no chance of it being messed up because someone's in a rush.

24601 · Post by **24601** » 18 Mar 2008, 17:44

You've got to vote "YES" to vote "NO"

Post by **Carnoustie** » 18 Mar 2008, 18:08

24601 wrote:You've got to vote "YES" to vote "NO"

Do I sense collusion between RM and the CWU top brass ? We all suspect that the pension reform was in fact agreed as a condition of agreeing the Pay & Modernisation deal. The wording on this ballot paper seems designed to get people to vote the 'wrong' way, so that the CWU can then say 'we secured a deal the membership approve of'

Post by **dvbuk55** » 18 Mar 2008, 18:24

How many times have you to be told - the deal was done last year.

What an absolute waste of money "Do you agree to reject Royal Mails Proposal"?

Yep that's really sticking it to em right enough

Oh and for those who bother to vote - and I would imagine it will be neglible - there is nothing to be done. All this tub thumping has been nothing but a charade for the masses. Voting NO or YES isn't going to change the outcome one jot.

johnsonrmc · Post by **johnsonrmc** » 18 Mar 2008, 18:27

24601 wrote:You've got to vote "YES" to vote "NO"

And many people have not worked this out, many in my mates office have voted No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in mistake. Was this deliberate on behalf of the CWU?

donut · Post by **donut** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:20

YEP....same in my office all the people saw was the word "NO" and put their mark on it not even reading the question
You had to mark yes to reject the proposals ....very clever C.W.U. , you`ve managed to stitch up a lot of thick people
with smoke and mirrors !!!!!!!!!!

vigilante · Post by **vigilante** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:29

The ballot papers were not printed in a great way at all but if your rep is anything he will get the message across and make sure people don't get it wrong.
I went round to individuals behind the screws back and also spread the word------it dosen't take long to get around an office as does anything else!!!!
And no I haven't got time to do it but I did a bit of ducking and diving.

pinstripe · Post by **pinstripe** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:32

Luckily my rep was handing out the ballot papers one at a time. He explained to every single person the union position and that they recommended voting 'Yes' to reject the proposals. I didn't think it was that complicated, but then again some people just vote 'No' to everything without thinking. Is that a pop at union militants, in a way it is I suppose, I'm as militant as the next man, but I do not follow blindly and if the last IA taught me anything it was check the small print for goodness sake.

alangate · Post by **alangate** » 18 Mar 2008, 21:09

24601 wrote:You've got to vote "YES" to vote "NO"

Well if the last big vote we had is anything to go by,35.000 did,nt bother voteing at all good luck with this one

Darren Bent · Post by **Darren Bent** » 18 Mar 2008, 22:12

Don't like the question and answer as it can be misleading if you don't read it carefully. It is a weird way to vote though.

edinburghsteve · Post by **edinburghsteve** » 23 Mar 2008, 22:43

The union should be sending ballot papers for everyone to vote for industrial action. But the 2 puppets at the top Hayes and Ward are so much up Browns ****. Time to get rid of the them and start the strike action rolling.

Herodotus · Post by **Herodotus** » 23 Mar 2008, 22:51

Suwannee - Suwannee - How I love ya - how I love ya - my dear old Suwannee!

Post by **dvbuk55** » 24 Mar 2008, 12:51

Herodotus wrote: Suwannee - Suwannee - How I love ya - how I love ya - my dear old Suwannee!

As if they would!