performance issue.

[dvbuk55]

Was that agreement really from 02? In which case I truly think it needs to be revisited under the terms of the BT 2010 Agreement and the larger delivery models which create frames with double slots more often than not. Couple that with the increase in D2D and the time taken is surely greater.

[fishtank]

Was that agreement really from 02? In which case I truly think it needs to be revisited under the terms of the BT 2010 Agreement and the larger delivery models which create frames with double slots more often than not. Couple that with the increase in D2D and the time taken is surely greater.

I agree.
Larger frames,double slots,sequenced mail,the mail profile itself have all changed the the way we prep mail.
The agreement needs looked at but after recent agreements maybe we should let sleeping dogs lie DV.
The last thing we need is a Performance Standards "deal of the century".
100 letters per minute....blindfolded?

[dvbuk55]

Was that agreement really from 02? In which case I truly think it needs to be revisited under the terms of the BT 2010 Agreement and the larger delivery models which create frames with double slots more often than not. Couple that with the increase in D2D and the time taken is surely greater.

I agree.
Larger frames,double slots,sequenced mail,the mail profile itself have all changed the the way we prep mail.
The agreement needs looked at but after recent agreements maybe we should let sleeping dogs lie DV.
The last thing we need is a Performance Standards "deal of the century".
100 letters per minute....blindfolded?

And one hand tied behind the back ft and in the dark - that would surely be the deal of the century

[osgoody1970]

if you were doing 20 21 22 a minute, no dom should be telling you, that you are not prepping to the standard, 9 10 a minute, different, but they have to coach you up to the agreed standard, it cannot be punitive.

[worktotime]

we currently have a failing p&l revision in our office with massive fails everyday from nearly everyone. dom now telling rep that he has agreed to the jobs & that they are going to start testing people to see if they are up to standard &if they are not they will be told they do not reach the required standards. basically blaming us for jobs that are impossible to complete in the time we have, what can they do if we do not meet the standards?? could we lose our job?? its crazy cz its not our fault but the jobs are just way to big! any info on this would really help as i can see bulling going to another level.

3 cheers for the cwu for agreeing to something that is an impossible workload, let them come out and time you and do the job as the book says and if youve got nothing to hide dont worry about it. then its a managers job to help you to improve , dont be bullied into running roun etc.

[spoodoo]

been tested loads now,pass all the time ,they neve tell me how much i passed by! Always tested when its out the door the mail ,,great idea to get us sorting faster when busy as fk! Overheard the bosses say the mail was over and that we managed lapsing anyway ,even though were told daily its under ,,,10 bags yesterday! not jokin .If we cant get out in time then we cant leave lapsing as was told its a performance issue ! the new in word,,, The only guys whore managing are the come in early guys n flappers.

[dvbuk55]

been tested loads now,pass all the time ,they neve tell me how much i passed by! Always tested when its out the door the mail ,,great idea to get us sorting faster when busy as fk! Overheard the bosses say the mail was over and that we managed lapsing anyway ,even though were told daily its under ,,,10 bags yesterday! not jokin .If we cant get out in time then we cant leave lapsing as was told its a performance issue ! the new in word,,, The only guys whore managing are the come in early guys n flappers.

Was that a misnomer spoodoo - if so it was very apt if I may say so

[DGP1]

been tested loads now,pass all the time ,they neve tell me how much i passed by! Always tested when its out the door the mail ,,great idea to get us sorting faster when busy as fk! Overheard the bosses say the mail was over and that we managed lapsing anyway ,even though were told daily its under ,,,10 bags yesterday! not jokin .If we cant get out in time then we cant leave lapsing as was told its a performance issue ! the new in word,,, The only guys whore managing are the come in early guys n flappers.

Was that a misnomer spoodoo - if so it was very apt if I may say so

I thought it was what he meant...............but that just me

[superports]

Why can`t "management" see that they are blatantly wrong?

We were given sheets of paper telling us what time we should be leaving the office.

One colleague, on a Tuesday, is supposed to be leaving the office before the IPS is finished and at least 20 minutes before the last lorry arrives with the rest of our mail!

[Postman Plodd]

Will they have the stones to actually go at that time?

[DirtyHarry]

Performance. A blatantly dishonest, mean-spirited, snide, management tool. That's all.

[superports]

Will they have the stones to actually go at that time?

Unfortunately, NO. Our union rep doesn`t seem to be interested in flagging up these type of issues. But I wish they would bring it up at a WTL just to hear "management" justify it.

[twoloops]

we currently have a failing p&l revision in our office with massive fails everyday from nearly everyone. dom now telling rep that he has agreed to the jobs & that they are going to start testing people to see if they are up to standard &if they are not they will be told they do not reach the required standards. basically blaming us for jobs that are impossible to complete in the time we have, what can they do if we do not meet the standards?? could we lose our job?? its crazy cz its not our fault but the jobs are just way to big! any info on this would really help as i can see bulling going to another level.

What we need is some type of performance app so the managers can measure where you are going wrong

Wonder what happened to Halfull

[ted_e_bear]

we currently have a failing p&l revision in our office with massive fails everyday from nearly everyone. dom now telling rep that he has agreed to the jobs & that they are going to start testing people to see if they are up to standard &if they are not they will be told they do not reach the required standards. basically blaming us for jobs that are impossible to complete in the time we have, what can they do if we do not meet the standards?? could we lose our job?? its crazy cz its not our fault but the jobs are just way to big! any info on this would really help as i can see bulling going to another level.

What we need is some type of performance app so the managers can measure where you are going wrong

Wonder what happened to Halfull

Looks like he left on IHR in 2017
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[eastie]

We had workers at our delivery office that cant do IPS.
since they have started all they do is throw PT walks mailsort off
Its the Old guard that do the IPS which is shrinking in numbers every month.
Also how do you work out performance issues on delivery, how can they chech you have delivered something properly , knocked on the door wrote a docket out etc. and not just scanned it and thrown it over a gate?
We have the office favourites ghosting , running round on OT making loads of mistakes, doorstepping, delivering to wrong roads, nothing gets done because he clears the tracked every day.
If ever you got pulled for a performance issue , tell them you are doing it how you told me to do it. if you got sacked for it you could take them to a tribunal
Glad I out of it.