No I got paid for what royal decided and timed with the aid of the super computer Pegasus, was 8 hours of work. I came in and worked my 8 hour duty that was allocated.LouBarlow wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 18:18Ok that’s good. So we agree then that being paid for the actual hours we work has not been a thing since either you or I started working for RM.enskied wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 17:12Our Great Union once won something called job and finish. You have to go back a long way to hear that. We were paid to complete our days work,that's it. If I worked hard and fast my duty ended, task completed.LouBarlow wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:40So over the years then, when you went home before 12 and still were paid a day’s wage, why were you not informing the inland revenue that you were sitting on your arse at home, being paid? Hope you aren’t too tired to respond.enskied wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:22God you are tiresome.LouBarlow wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 19:15Being paid for the hours you work is not really a thing. For example, RM pay you when you are off sick and doing no work. Is this open to a legal challenge from RM? No, it is part of the agreement signed on to by employer and employee via your union. As is the seasonal variation agreement.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 15:02![]()
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seasonal hours is illegal and not paying you for 8 months is most definitely illegal,dont listen to the cwu they are in cahoots with illegal activity, maybe they could be taken to court for illegally signing us up.
Even the inland revenue insists you are paid for your hours worked. Not to do so is a tax fraud
No need to inform the tax man. I often wouldn't go home , I'd do something I vaguely remember called overtime and of course the tax man knew that I'd gone the extra mile or 9.
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Get your coat on Aiden, I'm sure you'll love deliveryaiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 22:22Yep an hes still insulting people who voted yes sad life.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
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Clappedoutpostie
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I have asked half a dozen managers if we are unsecured creditors in that event but none of them can answer, I would suggest you all ask your manager/s the question.CamPostie wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 19:16But more than that - this is a company that was threatening administration only a few months back - so what are RM doing with the money earned but not yet paid over that 6 month or so period?
Are they putting aside that money, ring fencing it so that each employee is ensured that money if the worst happened?
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Foxel
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CWU rep, told us that someone is legally challenging the RM over seasonal hours. 
I'm turning purple!
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guardianangel
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Sadly that's something we will never know as 70 % bottled it.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 08:53You aren’t been silenced if anything you’re one of the most vocal on here. You’re entitled to an opinion but it doesn’t get you anywhere insulting the majority of the workforce.guardianangel wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:34Voting yes got me a pay cut and worse conditions in no way what so ever do i see this as a win,its a sellout ,you know it i know it everyone knows it and no matter how you try and silence the no voter as in union spiel goes we are still here.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
I’m still yet to hear now voting no would have stopped any of these changes coming in.
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guardianangel
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Exactly no one knows if you will ever see that time back or money owed ,a legal challenge should be brought to be paid for hours worked.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:54Sadly that's something we will never know as 70 % bottled it.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 08:53You aren’t been silenced if anything you’re one of the most vocal on here. You’re entitled to an opinion but it doesn’t get you anywhere insulting the majority of the workforce.guardianangel wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:34Voting yes got me a pay cut and worse conditions in no way what so ever do i see this as a win,its a sellout ,you know it i know it everyone knows it and no matter how you try and silence the no voter as in union spiel goes we are still here.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
I’m still yet to hear now voting no would have stopped any of these changes coming in.
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LouBarlow
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How could any actual postie take legal action to be paid for hours worked? We have all had it easy over the years, being paid a day’s wage and going home hours early.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:55Exactly no one knows if you will ever see that time back or money owed ,a legal challenge should be brought to be paid for hours worked.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:54Sadly that's something we will never know as 70 % bottled it.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 08:53You aren’t been silenced if anything you’re one of the most vocal on here. You’re entitled to an opinion but it doesn’t get you anywhere insulting the majority of the workforce.guardianangel wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:34Voting yes got me a pay cut and worse conditions in no way what so ever do i see this as a win,its a sellout ,you know it i know it everyone knows it and no matter how you try and silence the no voter as in union spiel goes we are still here.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
I’m still yet to hear now voting no would have stopped any of these changes coming in.
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PATHETIC SHITBAGS !guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:54Sadly that's something we will never know as 70 % bottled it.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 08:53You aren’t been silenced if anything you’re one of the most vocal on here. You’re entitled to an opinion but it doesn’t get you anywhere insulting the majority of the workforce.guardianangel wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:34Voting yes got me a pay cut and worse conditions in no way what so ever do i see this as a win,its a sellout ,you know it i know it everyone knows it and no matter how you try and silence the no voter as in union spiel goes we are still here.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
I’m still yet to hear now voting no would have stopped any of these changes coming in.
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pieoftheday
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I've really fooked up staying at my DO when I could have been going home hours early at a different one,what a fool I've beenLouBarlow wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 07:42How could any actual postie take legal action to be paid for hours worked? We have all had it easy over the years, being paid a day’s wage and going home hours early.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:55Exactly no one knows if you will ever see that time back or money owed ,a legal challenge should be brought to be paid for hours worked.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:54Sadly that's something we will never know as 70 % bottled it.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 08:53You aren’t been silenced if anything you’re one of the most vocal on here. You’re entitled to an opinion but it doesn’t get you anywhere insulting the majority of the workforce.guardianangel wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:34Voting yes got me a pay cut and worse conditions in no way what so ever do i see this as a win,its a sellout ,you know it i know it everyone knows it and no matter how you try and silence the no voter as in union spiel goes we are still here.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
I’m still yet to hear now voting no would have stopped any of these changes coming in.It is embarrassing.
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postieblueshirt
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love to know where you deliver balamory or maybe lazytown possibly trumpton? eastenders emmerdale?LouBarlow wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 07:42How could any actual postie take legal action to be paid for hours worked? We have all had it easy over the years, being paid a day’s wage and going home hours early.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:55Exactly no one knows if you will ever see that time back or money owed ,a legal challenge should be brought to be paid for hours worked.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:54Sadly that's something we will never know as 70 % bottled it.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 08:53You aren’t been silenced if anything you’re one of the most vocal on here. You’re entitled to an opinion but it doesn’t get you anywhere insulting the majority of the workforce.guardianangel wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:34Voting yes got me a pay cut and worse conditions in no way what so ever do i see this as a win,its a sellout ,you know it i know it everyone knows it and no matter how you try and silence the no voter as in union spiel goes we are still here.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
I’m still yet to hear now voting no would have stopped any of these changes coming in.It is embarrassing.
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LouBarlow
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It might just be how long we have been in the job, but I remember when I started and some days we would be home and finished by 10am. The fact that people are now turning around and threatening legal action over annualised hours is just laughable to me.pieoftheday wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 11:39I've really fooked up staying at my DO when I could have been going home hours early at a different one,what a fool I've beenLouBarlow wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 07:42How could any actual postie take legal action to be paid for hours worked? We have all had it easy over the years, being paid a day’s wage and going home hours early.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:55Exactly no one knows if you will ever see that time back or money owed ,a legal challenge should be brought to be paid for hours worked.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:54Sadly that's something we will never know as 70 % bottled it.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 08:53You aren’t been silenced if anything you’re one of the most vocal on here. You’re entitled to an opinion but it doesn’t get you anywhere insulting the majority of the workforce.guardianangel wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:34Voting yes got me a pay cut and worse conditions in no way what so ever do i see this as a win,its a sellout ,you know it i know it everyone knows it and no matter how you try and silence the no voter as in union spiel goes we are still here.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
I’m still yet to hear now voting no would have stopped any of these changes coming in.It is embarrassing.
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pieoftheday
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The only time I was back at 10am was when Id done my 1st delivery, then back out for the 2nd to finish around 12 pm. To be fair some Saturdays we could make an hour
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guardianangel
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Always worked my hours i've never been a runner and always took the van.LouBarlow wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 07:42How could any actual postie take legal action to be paid for hours worked? We have all had it easy over the years, being paid a day’s wage and going home hours early.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:55Exactly no one knows if you will ever see that time back or money owed ,a legal challenge should be brought to be paid for hours worked.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 05:54Sadly that's something we will never know as 70 % bottled it.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 08:53You aren’t been silenced if anything you’re one of the most vocal on here. You’re entitled to an opinion but it doesn’t get you anywhere insulting the majority of the workforce.guardianangel wrote: ↑25 Aug 2023, 07:34Voting yes got me a pay cut and worse conditions in no way what so ever do i see this as a win,its a sellout ,you know it i know it everyone knows it and no matter how you try and silence the no voter as in union spiel goes we are still here.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 21:13In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 20:09Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.guardianangel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 18:52You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 16:35Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
I’m still yet to hear now voting no would have stopped any of these changes coming in.It is embarrassing.
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Woody Guthrie
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The rumour that seasonal hours may be delayed is true.
The reason behind it is a hoax.
Apparently PSP/SISO is not all it's cracked up to be, who knew?
Discussions are ongoing...
The reason behind it is a hoax.
Apparently PSP/SISO is not all it's cracked up to be, who knew?
Discussions are ongoing...
Only dead fish follow the current