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Sputters
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Siso

Post by Sputters »

Hi does anyone know if Siso is live especially with the wages department. A guy in our office regularly scans out up to 10 mins early and reckons he doesn't get docked any money .
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Re: Siso

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Hi does anyone know if Siso is live especially with the wages department. A guy in our office regularly scans out up to 10 mins early and reckons he doesn't get docked any money .
It's not attached to pay ... yet. But your COMDOM will be watching and a lot more lapsing will be coming his way :hmmmm
LouBarlow
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Re: Siso

Post by LouBarlow »

Why would you not just wait ten minutes? Clean your frame or something. Anything.
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Re: Siso

Post by qwerty2 »

Sputters wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 18:18
Hi does anyone know if Siso is live especially with the wages department. A guy in our office regularly scans out up to 10 mins early and reckons he doesn't get docked any money .
10 mins early :left: :left:
Some people are finishing 1-2 hours early :evil/mad
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Re: Siso

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Can’t leave before time in our office, sometimes the PDA for logout his hidden until leaving time
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Re: Siso

Post by Foxel »

He won't lose any money off his contracted hours for finishing early. They will however penalise any pressure / excess overtime. They started doing that with us months ago. 10 minutes is unlikely to flag any issues though. We have been told that if we sign out early and there is any mail left in the building we'll be getting a beating.
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SMS1969
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Re: Siso

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plymouth3 wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 19:54
Can’t leave before time in our office, sometimes the PDA for logout his hidden until leaving time
You can sign out on your own pda.
ashmeister77
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Re: Siso

Post by ashmeister77 »

SMS1969 wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 20:38
plymouth3 wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 19:54
Can’t leave before time in our office, sometimes the PDA for logout his hidden until leaving time
You can sign out on your own pda.
Yeah our PDA to sign out wasn’t working last week so just scanned in and out on my PDA
scoobymunster
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Re: Siso

Post by scoobymunster »

People in our office are getting conducted if they "fail" to SISO. I've been pulled about not signing in so I've started taking photos of the confirmation on screen. :arrrghhh
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Re: Siso

Post by Seymour Buts »

It's not linked to wages, but anybody hanging around til their time to sign out isn't kidding anybody either. We've been told those above are picking up that people are finishing early, because of pda actuals. If your pda is showing your at the depot ages before finish it doesn't matter what time you clock out on the pda.
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Re: Siso

Post by pieoftheday »

Seymour Buts wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 18:27
It's not linked to wages, but anybody hanging around til their time to sign out isn't kidding anybody either. We've been told those above are picking up that people are finishing early, because of pda actuals. If your pda is showing your at the depot ages before finish it doesn't matter what time you clock out on the pda.
It's odd how some are getting back ages before finish time and yet others cant get anywhere near completing their delivery :hmmmm
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Re: Siso

Post by postslippete »

qwerty2 wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 19:33
Sputters wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 18:18
Hi does anyone know if Siso is live especially with the wages department. A guy in our office regularly scans out up to 10 mins early and reckons he doesn't get docked any money .
10 mins early :left: :left:
Some people are finishing 1-2 hours early :evil/mad


Hmmm There's a few doing that at our depot. I do wonder when those who are signing out an hour or so before their time and being dropped off at home will get picked up on
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: Siso

Post by SpacePhoenix »

postslippete wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 18:36
qwerty2 wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 19:33
Sputters wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 18:18
Hi does anyone know if Siso is live especially with the wages department. A guy in our office regularly scans out up to 10 mins early and reckons he doesn't get docked any money .
10 mins early :left: :left:
Some people are finishing 1-2 hours early :evil/mad


Hmmm There's a few doing that at our depot. I do wonder when those who are signing out an hour or so before their time and being dropped off at home will get picked up on
I expect they will eventually. The person dropping them off might get in trouble for going off route
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Re: Siso

Post by postslippete »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 19:20

I expect they will eventually. The person dropping them off might get in trouble for going off route

Surely the obvious thing is to stop the PDA from having a sign out feature and only have a dedicated clocking off system back in the office?


Nowt worse than having to work with someone who holds a grudge because you didn't drop him off near the pub so he can a have a cup of tea before his shift finishes. :chuckle
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: Siso

Post by Foxel »

Some have to sign off on a PDA, offices under 8 staff I believe don't have a stand-alone SISO station. Others have agreements in place meaning they don't have to come back into the office.
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