Anyone been told about more walks being removed?

[SpacePhoenix]

Who said there was going to be a Wave 2 in the near future?

With the way that the size of wave 2 batches have been shrinking at some point I think ave 2 will be done away with with either it being sent to DOs as manual or being rolled over to the next days wave 1

[postslippete]

Who said there was going to be a Wave 2 in the near future?

With the way that the size of wave 2 batches have been shrinking at some point I think ave 2 will be done away with with either it being sent to DOs as manual or being rolled over to the next days wave 1

In the short term it probably will. In the long term, the company wants rid of wave 2 because it wouldn't be cost effective to have posties to have nearly all their mail in and still be waiting for their parcels to arrive via the super hubs. By allowing posties to keep their current start times, what this would mean is a longer indoor span and it's not efficient. That is why they are not introducing the later starts until next year when they can make sure that we only get one wave of mail and that all the parcels arrive together. The company also believe that having one wave will make it easier to do away with the current fittings and instead bench merge with any mis-sorts. They are trying to reduce indoor work in order to make the bigger outdoor spans achievable. It's all been phased in and the delivery failures that are happening now due to bigger duties are not intended to happen when things are up and running.

Imho Royal Mail are doing everything back to front as usual and there will probably be months of delivery and USO failures before they can get an operation of this scale into the workplace. Thankfully there is scope in this deal to extend start/finish times from 60 to 90 minutes, but how it will all pan out is anyones guess.

[SpacePhoenix]

Who said there was going to be a Wave 2 in the near future?

With the way that the size of wave 2 batches have been shrinking at some point I think ave 2 will be done away with with either it being sent to DOs as manual or being rolled over to the next days wave 1

In the short term it probably will. In the long term, the company wants rid of wave 2 because it wouldn't be cost effective to have posties to have nearly all their mail in and still be waiting for their parcels to arrive via the super hubs. By allowing posties to keep their current start times, what this would mean is a longer indoor span and it's not efficient. That is why they are not introducing the later starts until next year when they can make sure that we only get one wave of mail and that all the parcels arrive together. The company also believe that having one wave will make it easier to do away with the current fittings and instead bench merge with any mis-sorts. They are trying to reduce indoor work in order to make the bigger outdoor spans achievable. It's all been phased in and the delivery failures that are happening now due to bigger duties are not intended to happen when things are up and running.

Imho Royal Mail are doing everything back to front as usual and there will probably be months of delivery and USO failures before they can get an operation of this scale into the workplace. Thankfully there is scope in this deal to extend start/finish times from 60 to 90 minutes, but how it will all pan out is anyones guess.

In the autumn and winter you're going to get a few days where there's physically too much work for a batch to be able to run it in one go so then we'd split it into two lots to be run separately (say there's 34 trays, we'd run 17 trays and then the other 17 trays).

If RM do bring in bench merging across the board, I can see there being major mergers of DOs around the country, with walks being allocated a certain amount of time on the benches. RM would make a big profit on the sale of DOs (anyone know approx what % of DOs are actually owned by RM?)

[postslippete]

In the autumn and winter you're going to get a few days where there's physically too much work for a batch to be able to run it in one go so then we'd split it into two lots to be run separately (say there's 34 trays, we'd run 17 trays and then the other 17 trays).

If RM do bring in bench merging across the board, I can see there being major mergers of DOs around the country, with walks being allocated a certain amount of time on the benches. RM would make a big profit on the sale of DOs (anyone know approx what % of DOs are actually owned by RM?)

Aye, I read somewhere that Royal Mail will make asset disposals with a couple of sites in a very attractive part of London for developers.

Closing offices and making walks bigger was always the plan

[arsenalbob]

Commitment to deliver is coming . Well done yes voters

that's the phrase i was looking for - cheers ! yeah will be bought in soon regardless what the union say , 7pm finish for most in the winter months

Doesn’t bother me what they bring in. I work 27 hours a day for a penny a year. My manager whips me if I even hint at bringing stuff back. But at least it’s a job.

[Duesouth]

Got told at the beginning of the week that x amount of walks are going to be taken out of the office with x amount of hours that need to be saved.

Now don't get me wrong every business needs to save money or make it.

But it got me thinking that the office I work in has not been clear in months so what makes them think that this is a good idea by introducing more work on to us even though its unmanageable.

Royal mail are pulling the wool over everyone's eyes including the regulator by failing the USO. This is the end game by reducing the service of delivering letters and it will only get worse. Reduce the service you reduce the staff in turn maximise profits. If the union and people around you can't see what's happening then it's about time you open your eyes.

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Got told at the beginning of the week that x amount of walks are going to be taken out of the office with x amount of hours that need to be saved.

Now don't get me wrong every business needs to save money or make it.

But it got me thinking that the office I work in has not been clear in months so what makes them think that this is a good idea by introducing more work on to us even though its unmanageable.

Royal mail are pulling the wool over everyone's eyes including the regulator by failing the USO. This is the end game by reducing the service of delivering letters and it will only get worse. Reduce the service you reduce the staff in turn maximise profits. If the union and people around you can't see what's happening then it's about time you open your eyes.

Their template for failure continues.
I think they are hedging their bets on these indoor trials working in these current round of revisions.
The problem they are going to have is retaining staff.
Experienced bods leaving in their droves and newbies in and out the revolving door.
Job for life they say.

[Jen1]

Top brass are convinced that there are spare hours in our office because their data says so

They’d rather believe their faulty data than the physical evidence

Even our managers are saying we can’t take anymore walks out but they’re trying to push it through anyway

At what point are they going to reevaluate and realise their data doesn’t add up?

[denhamhoop]

Top brass are convinced that there are spare hours in our office because their data says so

They’d rather believe their faulty data than the physical evidence

Even our managers are saying we can’t take anymore walks out but they’re trying to push it through anyway

At what point are they going to reevaluate and realise their data doesn’t add up?

Never this is the company that accused 1000s of Sub Postmasters of Theft and Fraud rather than admit their Horizon Data was wrong and then tried to cover up the fact they knew it was wrong all whilst taking innocent people to court

[pieoftheday]

Top brass are convinced that there are spare hours in our office because their data says so

They’d rather believe their faulty data than the physical evidence

Even our managers are saying we can’t take anymore walks out but they’re trying to push it through anyway

At what point are they going to reevaluate and realise their data doesn’t add up?

Never this is the company that accused 1000s of Sub Postmasters of Theft and Fraud rather than admit their Horizon Data was wrong and then tried to cover up the fact they knew it was wrong all whilst taking innocent people to court

Exactly, the senior RM management mindset goes back a lot further than Simon Thompson and privatisation, rotten at the core

[dazzler123]

Top brass are convinced that there are spare hours in our office because their data says so

They’d rather believe their faulty data than the physical evidence

Even our managers are saying we can’t take anymore walks out but they’re trying to push it through anyway

At what point are they going to reevaluate and realise their data doesn’t add up?

They know full well the data doesnt add up, they just want hours slashed regardless

[Jen1]

Top brass are convinced that there are spare hours in our office because their data says so

They’d rather believe their faulty data than the physical evidence

Even our managers are saying we can’t take anymore walks out but they’re trying to push it through anyway

At what point are they going to reevaluate and realise their data doesn’t add up?

Never this is the company that accused 1000s of Sub Postmasters of Theft and Fraud rather than admit their Horizon Data was wrong and then tried to cover up the fact they knew it was wrong all whilst taking innocent people to court

good point well made

[Jen1]

Top brass are convinced that there are spare hours in our office because their data says so

They’d rather believe their faulty data than the physical evidence

Even our managers are saying we can’t take anymore walks out but they’re trying to push it through anyway

At what point are they going to reevaluate and realise their data doesn’t add up?

They know full well the data doesnt add up, they just want hours slashed regardless

It seems that way but it doesn’t make any business sense

It’s not just letters that will fail but all non tracked parcels and many eBay sellers send by the cheapest option

A few bad reviews by eBay customers about not receiving their packages on time and that’s potentially more customers lost

It seems like they want this company to go bankrupt

I think we prefer to think RM are playing some devious game to get their own way but I’m starting to think they’re just plain stupid

[pieoftheday]

Probably expecting the tax payer to prop it up like we do with trains and water and green energy and then still take millions for the shareholders

[Acca Dacca]

Top brass are convinced that there are spare hours in our office because their data says so

They’d rather believe their faulty data than the physical evidence

Even our managers are saying we can’t take anymore walks out but they’re trying to push it through anyway

At what point are they going to reevaluate and realise their data doesn’t add up?

They know full well the data doesnt add up, they just want hours slashed regardless

It seems that way but it doesn’t make any business sense

It’s not just letters that will fail but all non tracked parcels and many eBay sellers send by the cheapest option

A few bad reviews by eBay customers about not receiving their packages on time and that’s potentially more customers lost

It seems like they want this company to go bankrupt

I think we prefer to think RM are playing some devious game to get their own way but I’m starting to think they’re just plain stupid

What is 'on time' if its not sent tracked or with any guarantee?