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Do people want letters

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scoobymunster
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Re: Do people want letters

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postieblueshirt wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 18:43

Very odd that a new build gets hardly any.All new builds my way are bombarded with mail and if there's a better word than bombarded I'd use it to describe the parcels.New builds are a nightmare.Young family's lots of money I'd say why they have money but I'd give away my location but one employer for them all locally.
New social housing? Same my office, the parcels for those areas are brutal, but letters are light(until the housing association sends their newsletter :Sick ) Some people can be waiting a few days for their bank card, appointment letter, exam results etc as that's less important than whatever cheap tat ebay offers. The company defies all logic nowadays.
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Re: Do people want letters

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Houses on older estates sem to get more junk mail from mail order companies, it seems once a customer orders from them they stay on the mailing list for years, they also appear to get more radio times etc. New estate customers probably just get mail they are really expecting like DVLC, HMRC etc.

You do wonder if mail was cut to a guaranteed 3 deliveries a week whether anybody would really be affected, given anything urgent can usually be sent by email.
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Re: Do people want letters

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TopperGas wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 07:26
Houses on older estates sem to get more junk mail from mail order companies, it seems once a customer orders from them they stay on the mailing list for years, they also appear to get more radio times etc. New estate customers probably just get mail they are really expecting like DVLC, HMRC etc.

You do wonder if mail was cut to a guaranteed 3 deliveries a week whether anybody would really be affected, given anything urgent can usually be sent by email.
“whether anybody would really be affected”

So you support thousands of your colleagues losing their jobs
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Re: Do people want letters

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TopperGas wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 07:26
Houses on older estates sem to get more junk mail from mail order companies, it seems once a customer orders from them they stay on the mailing list for years, they also appear to get more radio times etc. New estate customers probably just get mail they are really expecting like DVLC, HMRC etc.

You do wonder if mail was cut to a guaranteed 3 deliveries a week whether anybody would really be affected, given anything urgent can usually be sent by email.
In the very long term I reckon letter deliveries will be just once a week, maybe 2, with the walks that get delivered being on a rota. I can't think of any letter that I've received over the last decade that really needed to be next day. Just about all could have been any day of the week
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Re: Do people want letters

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 07:52
TopperGas wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 07:26
Houses on older estates sem to get more junk mail from mail order companies, it seems once a customer orders from them they stay on the mailing list for years, they also appear to get more radio times etc. New estate customers probably just get mail they are really expecting like DVLC, HMRC etc.

You do wonder if mail was cut to a guaranteed 3 deliveries a week whether anybody would really be affected, given anything urgent can usually be sent by email.
In the very long term I reckon letter deliveries will be just once a week, maybe 2, with the walks that get delivered being on a rota. I can't think of any letter that I've received over the last decade that really needed to be next day. Just about all could have been any day of the week
You would to have a dramatic drop in letters to go that low. There is no chance in hell I would be able to deliver a whole weeks worth of letters with in one or two days.
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Re: Do people want letters

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Nickvilla20 wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 08:45
SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 07:52
TopperGas wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 07:26
Houses on older estates sem to get more junk mail from mail order companies, it seems once a customer orders from them they stay on the mailing list for years, they also appear to get more radio times etc. New estate customers probably just get mail they are really expecting like DVLC, HMRC etc.

You do wonder if mail was cut to a guaranteed 3 deliveries a week whether anybody would really be affected, given anything urgent can usually be sent by email.
In the very long term I reckon letter deliveries will be just once a week, maybe 2, with the walks that get delivered being on a rota. I can't think of any letter that I've received over the last decade that really needed to be next day. Just about all could have been any day of the week
You would to have a dramatic drop in letters to go that low. There is no chance in hell I would be able to deliver a whole weeks worth of letters with in one or two days.
Letter volumes atm are WAY down even for the summertime. We've been getting the odd day over the last few weeks where some wave 1 batches on the CSS have been just 3 or 4 boxes
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Re: Do people want letters

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 09:30
Letter volumes atm are WAY down even for the summertime. We've been getting the odd day over the last few weeks where some wave 1 batches on the CSS have been just 3 or 4 boxes
Not according to the statement RM made to the stock market last week it’s not . They said mail is down but not as much as they expected. Income from letters actually rose compared to the same period last year.
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Re: Do people want letters

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qwerty2 wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 07:44
TopperGas wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 07:26
Houses on older estates sem to get more junk mail from mail order companies, it seems once a customer orders from them they stay on the mailing list for years, they also appear to get more radio times etc. New estate customers probably just get mail they are really expecting like DVLC, HMRC etc.

You do wonder if mail was cut to a guaranteed 3 deliveries a week whether anybody would really be affected, given anything urgent can usually be sent by email.
“whether anybody would really be affected”

So you support thousands of your colleagues losing their jobs
I thought it obvious I was responding to the OP, as I could well be one of those who lose my job if I'm still working for RM if/when it occurs. Although by then RM will have probably already replaced us with robots anyway!
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Re: Do people want letters

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dazzler123 wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 14:45
Not everyone in the world lives online
One of those squids from The Matrix will be round to plug her in shortly. Can't have anyone opting out of the surveillance dystopia.
The machine stops.
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Re: Do people want letters

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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 11:28
SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 09:30
Letter volumes atm are WAY down even for the summertime. We've been getting the odd day over the last few weeks where some wave 1 batches on the CSS have been just 3 or 4 boxes
Not according to the statement RM made to the stock market last week it’s not . They said mail is down but not as much as they expected. Income from letters actually rose compared to the same period last year.
Somedays some of the wave 2 batches have been so quiet that it's been very tempting to just send them on as manual
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Re: Do people want letters

Post by Woody Guthrie »

There is no chance in hell I would be able to deliver a whole weeks worth of letters with in one or two days.
Probably not with your current delivery span and parcel profile but both of those would likely change.

Once you hit 100% call rate which we've all done at some point you can't really go any higher then it just becomes a matter of managing the weight and the prep frame.

The frame won't be an issue if the new indoor methods come in and there are already solutions for weight.

So given a long enough outdoor delivery span.....
Only dead fish follow the current
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Re: Do people want letters

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 19:29
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 11:28
SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 09:30
Letter volumes atm are WAY down even for the summertime. We've been getting the odd day over the last few weeks where some wave 1 batches on the CSS have been just 3 or 4 boxes
Not according to the statement RM made to the stock market last week it’s not . They said mail is down but not as much as they expected. Income from letters actually rose compared to the same period last year.
Somedays some of the wave 2 batches have been so quiet that it's been very tempting to just send them on as manual
That’s been happening at my office and they’ve just sent it back as we don’t have the staff to manually sort a York of mech mail.
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Re: Do people want letters

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 20:56
There is no chance in hell I would be able to deliver a whole weeks worth of letters with in one or two days.
Probably not with your current delivery span and parcel profile but both of those would likely change.

Once you hit 100% call rate which we've all done at some point you can't really go any higher then it just becomes a matter of managing the weight and the prep frame.

The frame won't be an issue if the new indoor methods come in and there are already solutions for weight.

So given a long enough outdoor delivery span.....
Only time will tell but who knows where we will be in a couple of years. With current levels though I can see these DPR routes been dropped my office has lasped them for at least the next 7 weeks.