"A simple question.
Who gains from the statement "there is zero difference between the two Parties?"
Nobody gains, its just a statement of congnitive perception as a rationalisation of reality.
Whats the difference between blue/yellow/red rosette:
Finance, debt, taxation, foriegn policy, law&order, national policies in housing, healthcare, welfare, industrialisation, GDP, pensions, lobbying, inflation, corporate governance and stewardship of the nation & etc etc ?
We in Royal Mail have an excellent an undeniable example.
Whats the difference between Gordon Browns, Mandelsons, Cables and Camerons' Royal Mail privatisation?
Whats the difference between the QE/ZIRP/NIRP of Blair, Brown,Cameron/Clegg, BoJo.
Whats the difference between their personal investment strategies, tax avoidance, moral conduct & etc etc.
Whats the difference to the person on the street if 'Access Denied' re; housing, healthcare, law&order or economic activity is governed by blue/yellow or red rosette if 'Access Denied' is the demonstrable recent policy of all of them despite 'Perception Politics" Manifesto reassurances to the contrary.
Nobody gains from "there is zero difference between the two Parties?" but anyone can save themselves a ton of productive time by accepting it as a working hypothesis and paradigm rather than trying to work out the difference between phantom righties/lefties/commies/fascists/greenies & etc.
If its wrong perhaps a list of differences between 'right and 'left' and 'center' and how that has manifested in Governance, stewardship, finance, lobbying, law&order and other policies so that we "No differencers" can be educated in the matter?
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: The odds were always against us
Yes they do.Nobody gains from "there is zero difference between the two Parties?
It is a false narrative that is specifically designed to encourage apathy.
The status quo gains from apathy.
Oppressive states promote apathy.
It was a Conservative who first coined the phrase Red Tories to describe New Labour, they knew what they were doing. The fact that sections of the left adopted and ran with it must have had them wetting themselves with joy.
If you can convince the electorate that all parties are the same they will consistently vote to maintain the status quo.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Seymour Buts
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Re: The odds were always against us
It amazes me how people don't understand this. Why does revolution frighten people? Because the vast majority of people in this country live extremely comfortable lives; politicians like Corbyn threatening some sort of revolution scares people. All he ever seemed to talk was billionares or food banks, which bare no relation to any 'normal' person as they're both two extremes of a spectrum that most people can't relate to or don't want to admit exist. Same reason why voter turnout is so low, governments in this country don't tend to interfere in what we do, you're free to do whatever you want (within reason) therefore people don't particularly care who is in government.Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 16:09The media don't want radical political change.
The financial institutions don't want radical political change.
The establishment whatever that means doesn't want radical political change.
Businesses don't want radical political change.
Even the average Joe in the street doesn't want radical political change.
We had that experiment with Corbyn who could barely be described as radical.
It was soundly defeated twice, even in 2017 he was nowhere near forming a government.
You won't get radical political change in a country like the UK where despite protestations people still live relatively comfortably compared to the kind of countries where that kind of change is seen regularly. You really have to have f**k all to lose before you're willing to take that kind of gamble. Maybe it will come to that but we're a long way from it now.
So rather than praying for unicorns and tearing itself apart on a consistent basis the left needs to unify behind someone or something that can actually wrest power away from the right before they do even more damage.
A simple question.
Who gains from the statement "there is zero difference between the two Parties"?
I sometimes think the left is afraid of power, f**k all that responsibility s**t, it's safer to keep the lofty if impractical ideals and shout from the sidelines.
It hasn't helped a single person in 13 years though.
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Tman
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Re: The odds were always against us
Still haven't found the post? Maybe it's near the post of yours where you claimed that Nick Griffin was a leader in waiting, or the other where you admitted getting caught alone with the DOM errr... "persuading" him that you could use more O/T?Acca Dacca wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 10:12So you never voted Tory last election to “get Brexit done”?
Ok
Keep looking.