ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat
tyl
Posts: 32
Joined: 26 May 2007, 17:58

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by tyl »

sixfoottwo wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 16:44
Fu***** rigged!
Don't be a dipshit.
ihatedogs
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 540
Joined: 03 Nov 2010, 18:53
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by ihatedogs »

zz666 wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 18:15
When's the next set of revisions?
Ours is ongoing now.
guardianangel
Posts: 1782
Joined: 21 Feb 2020, 19:40
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by guardianangel »

I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Nickvilla20
Posts: 779
Joined: 13 May 2013, 07:30
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by Nickvilla20 »

guardianangel wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 19:53
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.

Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
JohnDoe12
Posts: 28
Joined: 21 Apr 2023, 21:13
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by JohnDoe12 »

Total fix. CWU needs to release data on voting from each office, no names need to be released, algon with who counted the votes and how much they were paid to do it. There is no way on earth a yes vote got 76% of the vote. Anyway, that was the final straw for me, I am no longer in that sham of a union. Delivery staff totally shafted AGAIN.
Ozcabsmangan
Posts: 64
Joined: 02 May 2019, 13:24
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by Ozcabsmangan »

Oh deary me
guardianangel
Posts: 1782
Joined: 21 Feb 2020, 19:40
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by guardianangel »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 20:00
guardianangel wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 19:53
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.

Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
JohnDoe12
Posts: 28
Joined: 21 Apr 2023, 21:13
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by JohnDoe12 »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 16:55
What it does show for not the first time is that the loudest voices are not always the voice of the majority.

This is one of the most difficult things a union has to deal with from office level right through to national level.

The silent majority are often silent because they cannot be heard over the noise made by the minority.
You say that but what proof do we have the vote was fair? Dave ward read out the percentage and moved swiftly on. I would like to see the raw data on how offices voted. We dont need to know names just how each office voted. I would also like to know more about who counted the votes and how much Dave ward paid them as I presume they did not do it for free. I mean lets be honest all the lies Dave Ward and the CWU have peddled in the last few months would you belive a word that came out of his mouth? I don't. In the meantime I think delivery staff should leave the CWU, they shaft us every deal this being the most by far, they are not on our side. The CWU are clearly a company union now, they offer zero protection to us so there is no point in being with them and paying them our money.
milly
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1233
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 09:43

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by milly »

JohnDoe12 wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 20:10
Total fix. CWU needs to release data on voting from each office, no names need to be released, algon with who counted the votes and how much they were paid to do it. There is no way on earth a yes vote got 76% of the vote. Anyway, that was the final straw for me, I am no longer in that sham of a union. Delivery staff totally shafted AGAIN.
I hate to break it to you, but the delivery staff seemed to have overwhelmingly voted for it, considering they outnumber every other function.
JohnDoe12
Posts: 28
Joined: 21 Apr 2023, 21:13
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by JohnDoe12 »

whereami wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 19:02
For all those crying, please do us all a favour and go take your vast amount of skills and qualifications to McDonald's to flip burgers.
Yeah in wo years time when your replaced by a new starter on less money, I'm sure we will be seeing you there also.
JohnDoe12
Posts: 28
Joined: 21 Apr 2023, 21:13
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by JohnDoe12 »

milly wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 20:18
JohnDoe12 wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 20:10
Total fix. CWU needs to release data on voting from each office, no names need to be released, algon with who counted the votes and how much they were paid to do it. There is no way on earth a yes vote got 76% of the vote. Anyway, that was the final straw for me, I am no longer in that sham of a union. Delivery staff totally shafted AGAIN.
I hate to break it to you, but the delivery staff seemed to have overwhelmingly voted for it, considering they outnumber every other function.
Yeah I just would like to see the raw evidence to support that. That should be no problem for the CWU if it was an honest vote.
koolishy67
Posts: 665
Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 21:02
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by koolishy67 »

whereami wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 19:02
For all those crying, please do us all a favour and go take your vast amount of skills and qualifications to McDonald's to flip burgers.
:Very Happy :Very Happy :Very Happy
milly
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1233
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 09:43

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by milly »

guardianangel wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 20:16
Nickvilla20 wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 20:00
guardianangel wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 19:53
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.

Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
postslippete
Posts: 4015
Joined: 14 Jul 2014, 16:27
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by postslippete »

whereami wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 19:02
For all those crying, please do us all a favour and go take your vast amount of skills and qualifications to McDonald's to flip burgers.


That would be a big McSteak
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Woody Guthrie
Posts: 5166
Joined: 29 Sep 2018, 20:47
Gender: Male

Re: The vote is in : 75.8% yes

Post by Woody Guthrie »

You say that but what proof do we have the vote was fair?
We have the fact that we're not wearing tin foil hats.

We know they used a huge and well known independent company with massive public sector contracts to count the votes whose entire business would be ruined if they were caught cheating on a relatively small scale minor union ballot.

Seems unlikely doesn't it?
Only dead fish follow the current