logically no - but practically that is what its going to take - or new technology to solve the issue. Nuclear fusion is our main (only?) hope.milly wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 19:21Do you think the expanding middle-classes of those Countries should be permitted to own things that Westerners take for granted such as refrigerators ?LouBarlow wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 19:06That’s right. We should all just give up then because nobody else is trying.stevejm wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 18:40This might be the coldest first week of July for many a year - apart from yesterday. I was down in Cotswolds on Thursday and a sales lady had a very thick woollen sweater on.
Spending trillions in the West on climate change measures will make little difference when countries like China (responsible for 25% of global CO2) , India, Pakistan, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, Russia and all of Africa ( all together > 60% of the worlds population) carry on as per normal.
Are you going to give up your Planet killing fridge or do you expect people in emerging economies to go without?
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Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age. 
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I agree there has never been a time when the Climate hasn't changed, it's just a massive power-grab that will impoverish millions of people.SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
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LouBarlow
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What do you know, that 97% of scientists involved in studying climate change don’t?SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Be sure to list your credentials if you dispute these claims by actual scientists, to prove you aren’t just a conspiracy nut internet expert.
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milly wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:31I agree there has never been a time when the Climate hasn't changed, it's just a massive power-grab that will impoverish millions of people.SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
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Like I say, everything to do with climate change costs us more. Business leaders love it and so do politicians. They can and will tax us more.LouBarlow wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 08:39What do you know, that 97% of scientists involved in studying climate change don’t?SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Be sure to list your credentials if you dispute these claims by actual scientists, to prove you aren’t just a conspiracy nut internet expert.
I don’t disagree with the fact that the planet is warming up, but there is exaggeration on this and how it’s happening. Just my view, which I’m entitled to, just as you are.
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Sure, you are entitled to hold a wrong opinion. It isn’t open to debate.SMS1969 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 09:00Like I say, everything to do with climate change costs us more. Business leaders love it and so do politicians. They can and will tax us more.LouBarlow wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 08:39What do you know, that 97% of scientists involved in studying climate change don’t?SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Be sure to list your credentials if you dispute these claims by actual scientists, to prove you aren’t just a conspiracy nut internet expert.
I don’t disagree with the fact that the planet is warming up, but there is exaggeration on this and how it’s happening. Just my view, which I’m entitled to, just as you are.
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LouBarlow wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 09:22Sure, you are entitled to hold a wrong opinion. It isn’t open to debate.SMS1969 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 09:00Like I say, everything to do with climate change costs us more. Business leaders love it and so do politicians. They can and will tax us more.LouBarlow wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 08:39What do you know, that 97% of scientists involved in studying climate change don’t?SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Be sure to list your credentials if you dispute these claims by actual scientists, to prove you aren’t just a conspiracy nut internet expert.
I don’t disagree with the fact that the planet is warming up, but there is exaggeration on this and how it’s happening. Just my view, which I’m entitled to, just as you are.
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You are yet another person who believes in the "appeal to authority fallacy".LouBarlow wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 08:39What do you know, that 97% of scientists involved in studying climate change don’t?SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Be sure to list your credentials if you dispute these claims by actual scientists, to prove you aren’t just a conspiracy nut internet expert.
There's plenty of people with credentials as long as your arm and yet are consistently wrong.
Climate Change is just another money making scam to take away your rights.
Anyhow Lou please explain why so many Billionaire Climate Doomongers have invested in Beachfront Real Estate?
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Any idea who funds these Scientists?LouBarlow wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 08:39What do you know, that 97% of scientists involved in studying climate change don’t?SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Be sure to list your credentials if you dispute these claims by actual scientists, to prove you aren’t just a conspiracy nut internet expert.
Money is a great motivator to stick to the narrative, especially if your funding relies on it.
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By plenty you mean 97% of the scientific community. It is amazing that all of these qualified professionals are wrong and some random internet post person is right. I think you are in the wrong job milly.milly wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 16:35You are yet another person who believes in the "appeal to authority fallacy".LouBarlow wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 08:39What do you know, that 97% of scientists involved in studying climate change don’t?SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Be sure to list your credentials if you dispute these claims by actual scientists, to prove you aren’t just a conspiracy nut internet expert.
There's plenty of people with credentials as long as your arm and yet are consistently wrong.
Climate Change is just another money making scam to take away your rights.
Anyhow Lou please explain why so many Billionaire Climate Doomongers have invested in Beachfront Real Estate?
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mjd24
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milly wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 16:38Any idea who funds these Scientists?LouBarlow wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 08:39What do you know, that 97% of scientists involved in studying climate change don’t?SMS1969 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 20:22Amazing how everything to do with climate change costs the general public money, including the electric car rip off. We are green taxed on this taxed on that , politicians love it. Antarctica was once a tropical forest don’t ya know. The planet will warm up, then cool down, natural cycles and all that- and guess what- one day there will be another ice age.![]()
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Be sure to list your credentials if you dispute these claims by actual scientists, to prove you aren’t just a conspiracy nut internet expert.
Money is a great motivator to stick to the narrative, especially if your funding relies on it.
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milly
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Lou any idea why Billionaire Climate change loons are spending millions of dollars on Beachfront Real Estate?
What do you think of the EU's idea to use Geoengineering to block out the Sun to cool the Earth down?
And why were internal Commercial flights banned in France but Private Jets were exempted?
The gullible are being played yet again
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What do you think of the EU's idea to use Geoengineering to block out the Sun to cool the Earth down?
And why were internal Commercial flights banned in France but Private Jets were exempted?
The gullible are being played yet again
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LouBarlow
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What billionaire climate change loons in particular do you mean? Also you seem to have dodged my question. What do you know, that 97% of the scientists in the world don’t. You have the contrary opinion so you have to justify it.
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milly
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It's very easy to use Google to find which Billionaires own Beachfront real estate.
What percentage of those 97% of Scientists are truly independent and don't rely on money from Billionaire benefactors?
As for dodging questions, I'm still waiting for you to answer mine.