The cwu are in bed with rm,thats why.guardianangel wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 06:00I've voted NO ,there is lots in this agreement that could be in breach of contract,why the hell the union have tried to sign us up to this i'll never know,maybe they don't want to spend our subs on legal fees and instead on their inflated wages,it doesn't have to be their way VOTE NO !!!!!!!!
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emu72
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LouBarlow
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That is what an agreement is. Two sides coming together. The clue is in the name really.emu72 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 22:16The cwu are in bed with rm,thats why.guardianangel wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 06:00I've voted NO ,there is lots in this agreement that could be in breach of contract,why the hell the union have tried to sign us up to this i'll never know,maybe they don't want to spend our subs on legal fees and instead on their inflated wages,it doesn't have to be their way VOTE NO !!!!!!!!
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guardianangel
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Just a shame its never in the interests of the worker.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:14That is what an agreement is. Two sides coming together. The clue is in the name really.emu72 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 22:16The cwu are in bed with rm,thats why.guardianangel wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 06:00I've voted NO ,there is lots in this agreement that could be in breach of contract,why the hell the union have tried to sign us up to this i'll never know,maybe they don't want to spend our subs on legal fees and instead on their inflated wages,it doesn't have to be their way VOTE NO !!!!!!!!
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LouBarlow
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It very rarely is when a company exists to maximise profits.guardianangel wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:52Just a shame its never in the interests of the worker.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:14That is what an agreement is. Two sides coming together. The clue is in the name really.emu72 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 22:16The cwu are in bed with rm,thats why.guardianangel wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 06:00I've voted NO ,there is lots in this agreement that could be in breach of contract,why the hell the union have tried to sign us up to this i'll never know,maybe they don't want to spend our subs on legal fees and instead on their inflated wages,it doesn't have to be their way VOTE NO !!!!!!!!
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guardianangel
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Not from me they wont im doing half the work i use too lower pay and conditions and they will get less work from me ,if its a yes the workforce will be like all other delivery companies and not give a f--k,good luck royal mail you reap what you sow.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 06:13It very rarely is when a company exists to maximise profits.guardianangel wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:52Just a shame its never in the interests of the worker.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:14That is what an agreement is. Two sides coming together. The clue is in the name really.emu72 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 22:16The cwu are in bed with rm,thats why.guardianangel wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 06:00I've voted NO ,there is lots in this agreement that could be in breach of contract,why the hell the union have tried to sign us up to this i'll never know,maybe they don't want to spend our subs on legal fees and instead on their inflated wages,it doesn't have to be their way VOTE NO !!!!!!!!
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LouBarlow
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Things aren’t staying the same if it is a no vote. That isn’t how this works. People need to get this into their heads.guardianangel wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 15:29Not from me they wont im doing half the work i use too lower pay and conditions and they will get less work from me ,if its a yes the workforce will be like all other delivery companies and not give a f--k,good luck royal mail you reap what you sow.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 06:13It very rarely is when a company exists to maximise profits.guardianangel wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:52Just a shame its never in the interests of the worker.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:14That is what an agreement is. Two sides coming together. The clue is in the name really.emu72 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 22:16The cwu are in bed with rm,thats why.guardianangel wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 06:00I've voted NO ,there is lots in this agreement that could be in breach of contract,why the hell the union have tried to sign us up to this i'll never know,maybe they don't want to spend our subs on legal fees and instead on their inflated wages,it doesn't have to be their way VOTE NO !!!!!!!!
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moon71
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Things aren’t staying the same if it is a no vote. That isn’t how this works. People need to get this into their heads.
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A bit confused. I thought if it was a no vote, delivery's would carry on as normal as the arrivals in DOs would be unchanged.
And the supernumerary in my mailcentre would be saved as the new superhub would be closed as a failed project. Hence no change.
Some people still can't see it can they. Vote no.
Things aren’t staying the same if it is a no vote. That isn’t how this works. People need to get this into their heads.
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A bit confused. I thought if it was a no vote, delivery's would carry on as normal as the arrivals in DOs would be unchanged.
And the supernumerary in my mailcentre would be saved as the new superhub would be closed as a failed project. Hence no change.
Some people still can't see it can they. Vote no.
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Woody Guthrie
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I wouldn't go down the sarcastic route.
There will be some who'll think you're serious.
There will be some who'll think you're serious.
Only dead fish follow the current
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LouBarlow
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Things aren’t staying the same if it is a no vote. That isn’t how this works. People need to get this into their heads.
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A bit confused. I thought if it was a no vote, delivery's would carry on as normal as the arrivals in DOs would be unchanged.
And the supernumerary in my mailcentre would be saved as the new superhub would be closed as a failed project. Hence no change.
Some people still can't see it can they. Vote no.
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I’ve read more moonbrained posts on here, so you will have to up your sarcasm game
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guardianangel
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Not bothered im still doing half the work ,there's more than one way to skin a cat,give us what we deserve and i'll work hard if not i won't its that simple,they are struggling to fill vacancies now i've lost count of new starters who have already left,its a win win for the workers not so much for royal mail,oh i forgot another loser will be the guys that start early and rush around and walk over cos they are screwed.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 17:36Things aren’t staying the same if it is a no vote. That isn’t how this works. People need to get this into their heads.guardianangel wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 15:29Not from me they wont im doing half the work i use too lower pay and conditions and they will get less work from me ,if its a yes the workforce will be like all other delivery companies and not give a f--k,good luck royal mail you reap what you sow.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 06:13It very rarely is when a company exists to maximise profits.guardianangel wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:52Just a shame its never in the interests of the worker.LouBarlow wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 05:14That is what an agreement is. Two sides coming together. The clue is in the name really.emu72 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 22:16The cwu are in bed with rm,thats why.guardianangel wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 06:00I've voted NO ,there is lots in this agreement that could be in breach of contract,why the hell the union have tried to sign us up to this i'll never know,maybe they don't want to spend our subs on legal fees and instead on their inflated wages,it doesn't have to be their way VOTE NO !!!!!!!!
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ted_e_bear
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A bit confused. I thought if it was a no vote, delivery's would carry on as normal as the arrivals in DOs would be unchanged.
And the supernumerary in my mailcentre would be saved as the new superhub would be closed as a failed project. Hence no change.
Some people still can't see it can they. Vote no.
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I’ve read more moonbrained posts on here, so you will have to up your sarcasm game
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I'll add to that then, both our rep and com reckon if it's a no vote then RM will concede that everything they've introduced over the last 20 years has been a failure and from September we're back starting at 5am, bikes are on order and we're waiting for ofcom to approve the reintroduction of 2nd deliveries.
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pieoftheday
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I’ve read more moonbrained posts on here, so you will have to up your sarcasm gameted_e_bear wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 20:02A bit confused. I thought if it was a no vote, delivery's would carry on as normal as the arrivals in DOs would be unchanged.
And the supernumerary in my mailcentre would be saved as the new superhub would be closed as a failed project. Hence no change.
Some people still can't see it can they. Vote no.
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I'll add to that then, both our rep and com reckon if it's a no vote then RM will concede that everything they've introduced over the last 20 years has been a failure and from September we're back starting at 5am, bikes are on order and we're waiting for ofcom to approve the reintroduction of 2nd deliveries.
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Our manager told us , vote no and that's it, RM is bankrupt, end of
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LouBarlow
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I’m more inclined to believe RM will go bust seeing as RM the CWU and the PEC have all said it is possible but sure a postman on an internet forum knows better. Sure.
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pieoftheday
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LouBarlow
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Why do you not believe your manager, RM, the CWU and the PEC? Literally all angles of this dispute. You must have some evidence guiding your opinion surely?pieoftheday wrote: ↑05 Jul 2023, 12:02A postman with an opinion, I've never said I know better than anyone?