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How to cancel union subs in RM app?

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smartin1982
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by smartin1982 »

claystones wrote:
25 Jun 2023, 16:29
Lou you really are a dickhead you are just an arguementative dick anything anyone says you just argue if you think by voting yes royal mail and the cwu will be bed together you aint in the real world mate its the end of of the cwu defo
Just wait til he logs out and back in again as woodyguthrie
LouBarlow
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by LouBarlow »

smartin1982 wrote:
26 Jun 2023, 06:39
claystones wrote:
25 Jun 2023, 16:29
Lou you really are a dickhead you are just an arguementative dick anything anyone says you just argue if you think by voting yes royal mail and the cwu will be bed together you aint in the real world mate its the end of of the cwu defo
Just wait til he logs out and back in again as woodyguthrie
Oh good, it is back to being accused of being someone else, because heaven forbid two people on an internet forum have a similar opinion. I’m sure there is plenty myself and Woody would disagree on, but it is easy enough to solve this critical internet mystery, as IPs are logged when people post here.

I am sure the mods would be happy to check for you and solve this eternal conspiracy once and for all!
k979aaa
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by k979aaa »

Contact HR they will do it, Thing is I would rather you all did not but this whole fabrication of a s**t agreement is voted in a ballot by us all. At Least you have a say in this while removing yourself will not abdicate your reconcilability of holding the union NOR the employer and find us all into a just solution for us all!
SWIM
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by SWIM »

cancel subs :

membership@cwu.org
'deal of the century' - dingo
SWIM
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by SWIM »

k979aaa wrote:
01 Jul 2023, 02:06
Contact HR they will do it, Thing is I would rather you all did not but this whole fabrication of a s**t agreement is voted in a ballot by us all. At Least you have a say in this while removing yourself will not abdicate your reconcilability of holding the union NOR the employer and find us all into a just solution for us all!
you do it through union.
'deal of the century' - dingo
BenacreNick
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by BenacreNick »

E-mail - membership@cwu.org

Bounce to the top (just in case you feel the need for it).

Presumably they need your name, address and union membership number ?
Last edited by BenacreNick on 11 Jul 2023, 17:15, edited 1 time in total.
sixfoottwo
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by sixfoottwo »

BenacreNick wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 16:45
E-mail - membership@cwu.org

Bounce to the top (just in case you feel the need for it).
What other info do they require? just your name? paynumber??
Wullie10
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by Wullie10 »

It is very simple to cancel union fees. Ring HR .Takes less than a minute. Unfortunately they'll be no drama, or someone willing to listen to a hissy fit. Better to vent your fury on the forum and then carry on as ever.
funkflex55
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by funkflex55 »

Just cancelled by email. Absolutely terrible deal and performance by cwu.
Ren Hoëk
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by Ren Hoëk »

Il give Ward, Fury, Pullinger and Webb a week to announce their departures and failing that I shall be leaving the union. With those 4 running the show the CWU has no credibility. Not from the staff and certainly not from the board. I can hear them laughing now. They must go if the CWU is to survive and re group.
Ozcabsmangan
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by Ozcabsmangan »

I'm out also.
Tally ho
Kevin.r.smith
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by Kevin.r.smith »

To minority of members who leave the union no one care’s goodbye
LouBarlow
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by LouBarlow »

Kevin.r.smith wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 06:32
To minority of members who leave the union no one care’s goodbye
It is bizarre isn’t it, how self-destructive some posties are. Not only were they determined to risk theirs, and everybody else’s jobs, by voting against the agreement, they now want to make their employment less secure going forward, by abandoning the union.

Ask yourself this - if RM really want to force out people on the older legacy contracts, who do you think they will target first? Answer - people with no union representation.

Good luck if you leave.
Ad_bee
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Re: How to cancel union subs in RM app?

Post by Ad_bee »

Why I'm not quitting the union yet.

Just a note from personal experience and p.o.v. (IMHO....which might be wrong). RM appear to have used my work unit as one of their 'testing-grounds' for their 'New way of working' since at least 2018 and its been as massive technologoly driven failure. This is mostly due to falsified/polluted raw data and the hubris driven misuse of that in performance management and workload resourcing. I'm not suggesting that the data is wrong but that its been tweaked to absurd levels to achieve management performance bonuses or an undisclosed background-plan to cover the contractual USO with a massive staff reduction (all mail is equal, but the delivery timespan contracts are not). That, or else some other suchlike malarky, shenanigans and crapulence.

Whatever. In my office that translated as the already oversized duties being performance-managed, not by use of actual raw data, reality and certainly not common-sense or RM's quoted operational standards and proceduresbut by emotive, capricious and negative feedback loops or just a point-blank failure to even engage ("you know where the door is") which isn't particularly surprising since Mick Jeavons has issued the plan and the results he wants to see on his spreadsheet, the bonuses paid to achieve that and which managers and offices are failing to achieve their bonuses and targets respectively. Micks spreadsheet was essentially no more informative than pub-bog graffiti, hence Simon T's doomed 'true picture' putsch. Both Williams and Jeavons are very capable persons, as we have witnessed. We may not agree with their tactics or crapulence but they are very good it and we are not (thats a good enough reason to stay with the union in itself?). They have harrowed Royal Mail, the USO, the union and the workforce all with cast-iron plausible deniability (modernisation, profit, 'rogue managers', 'sickly/unionised/lazy/incompetent/theiving workforce, Covid, industrial action, labour market supply etc) alll of which has masked their own shortcomings or strategy (whichever applies). They even have union plus the majority of the workforce onside and have been given the 'green light' to deploy whatever they want, whenever they want and how they want it.

s**t rolls downhill.

All of the grief is about to be unleashed upon those lucky enough to have avoided the past 5 years (at least) worth of 'improvement' (some was needed, some has worked but due to misapplication has failed). I don't think anyone can truly appreciate the tidal-wave of disruption and malice thats going to be deployed from as early as neek week unless they've experienced a fully compliant test-office that never-the-less fails all of Mssrs Williams and Jeavons' expectations. It never going be 'their fault' niether Williams/Jeavons, the Board, Ofcom. the tech or any managemnet level.

Its going to be 'your fault'...every day and you will be challenged and managed accordingly if my trial-office is anything to go by, and its going to wear you down. Obviously there's a very optimistic workforce majority that either has not experienced that or have experienced it differently and has a different opinion of it but I believe its coming, 'turned-up to 11' and possibly a lot quicker than people realise.

If it does, if my experience or cognitive evaluation thereof is correct, everyone is going to need even the paltry, pwned and lukewarm representation of the union.

I'm for leaving the union too, but am defering for at least 6 months to see 'hoe the cookie crumbles'. I don't think an instant kneejerk reaction is wise considering the power that has been handed to Williams and Jeavons who are both sensible enough to make the most of the momentum they have engineered.

I'm for 'holding my fire' and laying-low.