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£ 900 - CWU, Why?
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k979aaa
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
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gone postal
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
If it's for all employees, why not all those invested in the pension scheme? Remember there are ex employees who have an interest. Those who retired and are in receipt of their pension and more importantly those who have left the business and are deferred members of the fund yet to take their pension.
There are also those employees who for whatever reason opt out of the pension scheme and they will also benefit???? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but has any other company paid out a lump sum to employees from their pension fund? Just seems way,way dodgy to me!
There are also those employees who for whatever reason opt out of the pension scheme and they will also benefit???? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but has any other company paid out a lump sum to employees from their pension fund? Just seems way,way dodgy to me!
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k979aaa
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
It is an escrow account ie it was a contingency fund thus was paid by all and not paid out till they agreed the terms of release of the funds this will not affect others pensions as it was separate fund why they had this account/fund this is another matter!gone postal wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 14:50If it's for all employees, why not all those invested in the pension scheme? Remember there are ex employees who have an interest. Those who retired and are in receipt of their pension and more importantly those who have left the business and are deferred members of the fund yet to take their pension.
There are also those employees who for whatever reason opt out of the pension scheme and they will also benefit???? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but has any other company paid out a lump sum to employees from their pension fund? Just seems way,way dodgy to me!
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dillypot
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
Just a thought if this a surplus of the pension that can be just given away why does it then have to be tied into this agreement 
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thefox
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
Nice wee reward for the people who bully and harass us at every turn would rather do without the 900 than those scroats get itMartin Walsh wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 12:43Managers which were in the scheme do get the lump sum as the trustees and pension regulator would only sign off this sum if it applied to all grades which the pension scheme covered.
It does not cover senior managers.
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gone postal
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
Seems very short sighted to me. Who knows what is going to happen in the future? Robbing the pension surpluses is what got Royal Mail into trouble before privatisation. It sets a dangerous precedent in my book. Pension funds should never be used to bail out the employer!
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k979aaa
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
Well the government did it to sell it on and we are where we are!gone postal wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 15:57Seems very short sighted to me. Who knows what is going to happen in the future? Robbing the pension surpluses is what got Royal Mail into trouble before privatisation. It sets a dangerous precedent in my book. Pension funds should never be used to bail out the employer!
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sixfoottwo
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
Exactly. You find another way or just don't go there but we all know why this has been agreed don't we... a small bribe to try to convince the ones to take the surrender dealthefox wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 15:53Nice wee reward for the people who bully and harass us at every turn would rather do without the 900 than those scroats get itMartin Walsh wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 12:43Managers which were in the scheme do get the lump sum as the trustees and pension regulator would only sign off this sum if it applied to all grades which the pension scheme covered.
It does not cover senior managers.
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fallenworld2022
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
they should stop faffing about and get the money in before august in the account none of this backdated pay 2024 crap
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roman
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
No matter what’s said on here £900 for each postie wether or not managers get it will seal the deal. Carrots like that normally do. That’s why the've been delaying the vote.
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KilledOff
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
thefox wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 15:53Nice wee reward for the people who bully and harass us at every turn would rather do without the 900 than those scroats get itMartin Walsh wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 12:43Managers which were in the scheme do get the lump sum as the trustees and pension regulator would only sign off this sum if it applied to all grades which the pension scheme covered.
It does not cover senior managers.
Seriously couldn't make this carp up!
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k979aaa
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
I think the biggest aspect of this deal is why ROYAL MAIL paid £568 Million in share dividends and claim poverty and our union is aqusining the agreement by forfeiture of the pension scheme and that is money paid by us all to bailout some fat cats and dubious people!
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thefox
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woofwoof
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Re: £900 - CWU, Why?
I'm so angry I'm voting NO now