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if its a yes vote

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guardianangel
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by guardianangel »

At this point Royal Mail do not give a s--t,today more sarcastic comments bullying and harassment,unless we vote No and start to finally reign this lot in someone is seriously going to do something bad.
k979aaa
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by k979aaa »

You can vote NO all you want but will it change the deal the leadership of the CWU or the whole board of Royal mail. I think we can only vote on a 6% pay rise a £500 bung now a £1400 pro rata bung of our pensions contingency fund! Would love to tell you all how to vote just put an X in the box but we are f****d either way!
thefox
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by thefox »

Neebs wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 09:00
Maybe if the union didn't fxxck over it's members we wouldn't be acting like spoiled children .
go fxxck off with your shite mate .
Your defending a sell out that's not what unions do.
Well said sir im so glad this person is not my rep
thefox
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Re: if its a yes vote

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Can remember defending the union to my brother decades ago he kept saying to me they will f**k you over 1 day they are only in it for themselves fast forward a lot of years and here we are at last🙂you were right bro f**k them all
scotchy1962
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by scotchy1962 »

If its a yes vote so be it, if people are foolish enough to fall for this bribe, because lets face it that's exactly what it is, they will deserve everything that follows.
I believe in democracy and peoples ability to vote how they see fit, the union and RM seen they were struggling and have tried to tip the scales in their favour, now that i don't like and if this was a election people would be getting their collar felt.
It has shown that RM and the union share the same morals deep down and are as bad as each other.
I will find it very difficult to keep in the union after this, even the legal protection it provides probably isn't worth it.
Shame on you!
LancePercival
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by LancePercival »

:Applause :Applause :Applause
thefox
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by thefox »

scotchy1962 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 19:09
If its a yes vote so be it, if people are foolish enough to fall for this bribe, because lets face it that's exactly what it is, they will deserve everything that follows.
I believe in democracy and peoples ability to vote how they see fit, the union and RM seen they were struggling and have tried to tip the scales in their favour, now that i don't like and if this was a election people would be getting their collar felt.
It has shown that RM and the union share the same morals deep down and are as bad as each other.
I will find it very difficult to keep in the union after this, even the legal protection it provides probably isn't worth it.
Shame on you!
:Applause :Applause :Applause
aiden01
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by aiden01 »

scotchy1962 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 19:09
If its a yes vote so be it, if people are foolish enough to fall for this bribe, because lets face it that's exactly what it is, they will deserve everything that follows.
I believe in democracy and peoples ability to vote how they see fit, the union and RM seen they were struggling and have tried to tip the scales in their favour, now that i don't like and if this was a election people would be getting their collar felt.
It has shown that RM and the union share the same morals deep down and are as bad as each other.
I will find it very difficult to keep in the union after this, even the legal protection it provides probably isn't worth it.
Shame on you!
How do you know it would not have been a yes vote without the bribe.might still be a no vote even with so-called bribe.11th july we shall all know until then no point even discussing it anymore.
cockneyrebel
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by cockneyrebel »

Everyone putting up £900 and £500 hence £1,400
IT ALL SUBJECT TO 20% TAX AND 12% National Insurance
HENCE IT ONLY £952
everyone seems to be overlooking only 2% for next year
Prices/Inflation will not have fully anywhere near to where everyone wants it to be re 2024 that is obvious now
The Deal as a whole is STILL POOR
Re revisons/start/finish times, sick and IHR, quality of service etc
Rommagic
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by Rommagic »

Don't forget the back pay.
steve2zaf
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by steve2zaf »

I pay the union to protect my t&c and enhance my working conditions and increase my pay. I am not against change - but I am very against giving up so much to gain very little. This is not about throwing the toys out of the pram or having a hissy fit if it's a YES vote. Democracy doesn't come into this . This is about VFM ( value for money) - paying for a service which we are not getting . I will quit immediately if this gets voted through.
I will have Amazon Prime & Netflix free every year from the savings . Now that really is VFM .
aiden01
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by aiden01 »

cockneyrebel wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 22:14
Everyone putting up £900 and £500 hence £1,400
IT ALL SUBJECT TO 20% TAX AND 12% National Insurance
HENCE IT ONLY £952
everyone seems to be overlooking only 2% for next year
Prices/Inflation will not have fully anywhere near to where everyone wants it to be re 2024 that is obvious now
The Deal as a whole is STILL POOR
Re revisons/start/finish times, sick and IHR, quality of service etc
Your ex rm why care.
aiden01
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by aiden01 »

steve2zaf wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 22:50
I pay the union to protect my t&c and enhance my working conditions and increase my pay. I am not against change - but I am very against giving up so much to gain very little. This is not about throwing the toys out of the pram or having a hissy fit if it's a YES vote. Democracy doesn't come into this . This is about VFM ( value for money) - paying for a service which we are not getting . I will quit immediately if this gets voted through.
I will have Amazon Prime & Netflix free every year from the savings . Now that really is VFM .
Just hope you never need the union anytime soon for anything legal.. like a dogbite or maybe a crash in a rm vehicle just a few to mention.maybe even pay stopped while on sick for no reason.
sweepster70
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Re: if its a yes vote

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steve2zaf wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 22:50
I pay the union to protect my t&c and enhance my working conditions and increase my pay. I am not against change - but I am very against giving up so much to gain very little. This is not about throwing the toys out of the pram or having a hissy fit if it's a YES vote. Democracy doesn't come into this . This is about VFM ( value for money) - paying for a service which we are not getting . I will quit immediately if this gets voted through.
I will have Amazon Prime & Netflix free every year from the savings . Now that really is VFM .

It's toys out the pram from you. Democracy does come into this, it's about respecting a majority vote. If there was a mass exodus from the Union, there would be no representation in the workplace or anywhere. There would be no Union. You are a very selfish man.
steve2zaf
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Re: if its a yes vote

Post by steve2zaf »

sweepster70 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:28
steve2zaf wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 22:50
I pay the union to protect my t&c and enhance my working conditions and increase my pay. I am not against change - but I am very against giving up so much to gain very little. This is not about throwing the toys out of the pram or having a hissy fit if it's a YES vote. Democracy doesn't come into this . This is about VFM ( value for money) - paying for a service which we are not getting . I will quit immediately if this gets voted through.
I will have Amazon Prime & Netflix free every year from the savings . Now that really is VFM .

It's toys out the pram from you. Democracy does come into this, it's about respecting a majority vote. If there was a mass exodus from the Union, there would be no representation in the workplace or anywhere. There would be no Union. You are a very selfish man.
Democracy is General elections / Brexit , Local elections etc . I respect all results whether I like it or not. This does not fall under that category whatsoever. I am not here to pay my money to a union that agrees to your agenda . If you think I am selfish - I really couldn't give a f@k.
You Ward & Fury should join a circus - They are always short of experienced clowns.