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Here it is
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yellowbelly
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Re: Here it is
https://twitter.com/CWUnews/status/1669 ... 3Sj6wuAAAA
We have agreed an additional £900 lump sum. This is on top of the £500 lump sum and any backpay you will be due from the 6% pay rise from April 2023. You deserved more. We have delivered more.
and
https://www.cwu.org/pensions-statement
Pensions-Statement
Subject: Royal Mail has secured the money to fund a one-off lump sum payment expected to be at least £900 per employee
The Trustee of the Royal Mail Pension Plan (RMPP) has agreed to release to Royal Mail some money that has been held separate to the Pension Plan. We are going to use this to pay all employees of Royal Mail Group Ltd and Property and Facilities Solutions Ltd a one-off, lump sum payment which is expected to be at least £900 per employee (pro-rated for part-time employees).
This payment, which is subject to the ratification of the Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth agreement, will be in addition to the proposed pay offer agreed with the CWU. The exact amount will depend on the precise number of employees at the time of the payment.
It is being funded by money being held in something called an ‘escrow’. An ‘escrow’ is a legal arrangement where a third party holds assets or money on behalf of the other two parties until certain conditions have been met.
The escrow was established in 2017 as a potential source of additional funds for the Plan should they be required. Since the creation of the escrow, the funding position of the RMPP has improved considerably. RMPP is now well-funded and The Trustee is confident that members’ interests are well protected, even after the release of the escrow funds. The escrow was valued at £196m on 26 March 2023.
We are grateful to the Trustees for agreeing to release the funds which enables us to give an additional one-off lump sum payment during this difficult period given the current cost of living challenges.
Most of the money from the escrow will be used to fund the one-off lump sum payment expected to be at least £900 to all [Royal Mail Group Ltd and Property and Facilities Solutions Ltd] employees. The remainder of the escrow, £70m, will be made available to the planned Royal Mail Collective Pension Plan when it is launched early next year.
What happens next?
The release of the escrow is subject to final ratification of the agreement with the Communication Workers Union (CWU) in the member ballot. Once the agreement is ratified, all employees will receive the payment on 29 September and it will be subject to normal Income Tax and National Insurance.
We have agreed an additional £900 lump sum. This is on top of the £500 lump sum and any backpay you will be due from the 6% pay rise from April 2023. You deserved more. We have delivered more.
and
https://www.cwu.org/pensions-statement
Pensions-Statement
Subject: Royal Mail has secured the money to fund a one-off lump sum payment expected to be at least £900 per employee
The Trustee of the Royal Mail Pension Plan (RMPP) has agreed to release to Royal Mail some money that has been held separate to the Pension Plan. We are going to use this to pay all employees of Royal Mail Group Ltd and Property and Facilities Solutions Ltd a one-off, lump sum payment which is expected to be at least £900 per employee (pro-rated for part-time employees).
This payment, which is subject to the ratification of the Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth agreement, will be in addition to the proposed pay offer agreed with the CWU. The exact amount will depend on the precise number of employees at the time of the payment.
It is being funded by money being held in something called an ‘escrow’. An ‘escrow’ is a legal arrangement where a third party holds assets or money on behalf of the other two parties until certain conditions have been met.
The escrow was established in 2017 as a potential source of additional funds for the Plan should they be required. Since the creation of the escrow, the funding position of the RMPP has improved considerably. RMPP is now well-funded and The Trustee is confident that members’ interests are well protected, even after the release of the escrow funds. The escrow was valued at £196m on 26 March 2023.
We are grateful to the Trustees for agreeing to release the funds which enables us to give an additional one-off lump sum payment during this difficult period given the current cost of living challenges.
Most of the money from the escrow will be used to fund the one-off lump sum payment expected to be at least £900 to all [Royal Mail Group Ltd and Property and Facilities Solutions Ltd] employees. The remainder of the escrow, £70m, will be made available to the planned Royal Mail Collective Pension Plan when it is launched early next year.
What happens next?
The release of the escrow is subject to final ratification of the agreement with the Communication Workers Union (CWU) in the member ballot. Once the agreement is ratified, all employees will receive the payment on 29 September and it will be subject to normal Income Tax and National Insurance.
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CRIBMAD
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Here it is
TRYING TO BUY US OFF FOR £900 - its a NO from me !
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ted_e_bear
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luddite
- Posts: 451
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Re: Here it is
Fillow the link on the FB page.
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Ted the dog
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Here it is
I’m not on Facebook anywhere else to see start times
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toonshola
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Re: Here it is
My new finish time has me finishing 15 mins after my kids finish school and it’s a 20 minute drive from our office.
Maybe I’ll use the 900 bung to build myself a time machine.
Maybe I’ll use the 900 bung to build myself a time machine.
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Broxi51
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- Joined: 30 Jul 2007, 19:04
- Location: Scotland
Re: Here it is
https://www.cwu.org/later-starts-joint-statement/
Gives you the later start and finishing times
Later Starts Joint Statement
RMG/CWU Joint Communication on provisional Indicative Modelling of Delivery Offices Start and Finish Times within the timeframe of the Negotiators Agreement.
Following the release of the RM/CWU Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Negotiators Agreement, both parties have agreed to share the indicative modelling for Delivery Office start and finish times before CWU members participate in the forthcoming ballot.
In producing the indicative modelling outputs both parties recognise that changes to start and finish times are of concern to many employees in all functions, particularly in Delivery and commit to seek to minimise change in start and finish times whilst still achieving the necessary improvements in cost and environmental impact due to reducing the reliance on air transport.
We have jointly produced a webpage enabling access to the following information which can be accessed at https://www.cwu.org/national-agreement- ... ish-times/ This supersedes what has previously been published. This will show:
The provisional and indicative start and finish times based on an up to 1630 last letter and up to a maximum of 60 minutes later
The provisional and indicative start and finish times based on an up to 1630 last letter and up to a maximum of 90 minutes later
The proposed start and finish times laid out in the agreement
The negotiators agreement between Royal Mail and the CWU states that:
Deployment approach-
It is agreed that:
“In 2023 in advance of the Network Window change there will be no change to delivery duty start times relating to this project. Where there are managerial proposals to alter start times these must be supported by changes to local workload, or productivity changes and be subject to the full terms of the IR Framework.”
“Both parties are committed to a joint programme of work designed to achieve the necessary Pipeline, work flow and Mail Centre cycle time improvements required to limit the change to start and finish times up to a maximum of 60 minutes. To achieve this, joint activity will be undertaken at a national and local level to review all such opportunities to advance workload and facilitate this outcome.
“Where improved product flow is consistently achieved as a result of the activity set out above and sustained for a period of 3 months prior to deployment in March 2024 then start and finish times will be moved accordingly. Performance during this period will be jointly monitored and reviewed by the Joint Working Groups with a view to resolving any issues.
“Where this programme of work does not make it possible to limit the change to up to 60 minutes, during March 2024 delivery start and finish times will move up to a maximum of 90 minutes later as a result of extended network window, the last letter delivery time at this point will move to up to 16:30.”
“Last letter Delivery completion times will vary up to 16.30 hrs though the majority of deliveries across the UK will be planned to complete before 15.30 hrs, with the vast majority by 16.00 hrs. It is recognised that a small exceptional number of rural deliveries will continue to completed later than 16.30 hrs.”
Provisional and indicative start times based on a change of up to 60 minutes
If through the joint programme of work designed to achieve the necessary Pipeline, workflow and Mail Centre cycle time improvements required to limit the change to start and finish times up to a maximum of 60 minutes the proposals would see:
19% of walks finish up to 30 minutes later
81% finish between 30 and 60 minutes later
Based on this analysis 64% of walks have a last letter time up to 15.30, with 93% up to 16.00.
Provisional and indicative start times based on a change of up to 90 minutes
Using the most up to date analysis of the data relating to the indicative later start and finish times using up to 90 minutes, the proposals would see:
19% of walks across the country finishing up to 30 minutes later
20% finish between 30 and 60 minutes later
And 61% finish between 60 and 90 minutes later
Based on this analysis 44% of walks have a last letter time up to 15.30, increasing to 76% up to 16.00. It is recognised that a small exceptional number of rural deliveries will continue to be completed later than 16.30 hrs.
How the proposed changes have been worked out
It is important to provide clarification that the indicative modelling assumptions have been completed using the following information:
Delivery Duty Set (DDS) data from May 2023,
Finish time is calculated as 15 minutes after last letter time
All associated data and times are for 1254 Delivery Offices and Large SPDO’s
All associated data and times are based on Wednesday attendance, using the dominant duty pattern for a Full-Time duty within the office
Both parties understand that there will be local factors and circumstances which have influenced the outputs of the indicative modelling that may not have been captured accurately, however those aspects will be addressed through the National & Local joint working groups and further reviewed in line with the deployment approach.
Working together to explore possible further improvements
The new national network will be designed based on an up to 3-hour extension to the network window at end state of the programme.
The degree to which this change will impact Delivery Offices will be different by Mail Centre, dependent on local arrangements and position in the network.
Between May 2023 and September 2023, newly established National and Local Joint Royal Mail/CWU Working Groups will explore if the modelled impact on Delivery start and finish times can be improved upon.
As set out above, both parties are committed to a joint programme of work designed to achieve the necessary Pipeline, workflow and Mail Centre cycle time improvements required to limit the change to start and finish times up to a maximum of 60 minutes.
Where this programme of work does not make it possible to limit the change to up to 60 minutes, during March 2024 delivery start and finish times will move up to a maximum of 90 minutes later as a result of extended network window, the last letter delivery time at this point will move to up to 16:30.
“Exception process for all employees (Delivery, Processing, Distribution) to accommodate caring and other requirements.
As a result of the above changes to working patterns many individuals will need to adjust their attendance times. Royal Mail will ensure that in the vast majority of cases these changes will be minimal and can be accommodated with enough notice and support. However, some employees will have responsibilities and commitments in their personal lives which may make this more difficult. Royal Mail will therefore strive to accommodate at all times the needs of individual employees, whilst also meeting the needs of the operation. Royal Mail and the CWU will jointly develop the process and guidance which will be used to support all front-line employees.”
Deploying the changes
It is important to confirm that the changes to start and finish times would be deployed in delivery in March 2024 and both parties will ensure that all employees will know the detail of the changes three months prior to deployment, recognising the degree of change in some delivery locations.
The high level timelines are:
National and Local Joint Working Groups established and will explore if the modelled impact on Delivery start and finish times can be improved –from June ‘23
Deploy solutions identified through Joint Working Group – by August ‘23
Delivery employee informed of change to start and finish times – December ‘23
Exception’s process opens – from December ‘23
Deployment of the Network Window Change – March 2024
In addition to the publication of the indicative modelling exercise both parties continue to work on an FAQ document (see appendix B) alongside the information and further information will follow including how the National and Local JWG will function going forwards.
Both parties have agreed that there will be a central contact point for questions and/or points of clarification to be sent to be dealt with by the National JWG and the email is: questions@royalmail.com
Gives you the later start and finishing times
Later Starts Joint Statement
RMG/CWU Joint Communication on provisional Indicative Modelling of Delivery Offices Start and Finish Times within the timeframe of the Negotiators Agreement.
Following the release of the RM/CWU Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Negotiators Agreement, both parties have agreed to share the indicative modelling for Delivery Office start and finish times before CWU members participate in the forthcoming ballot.
In producing the indicative modelling outputs both parties recognise that changes to start and finish times are of concern to many employees in all functions, particularly in Delivery and commit to seek to minimise change in start and finish times whilst still achieving the necessary improvements in cost and environmental impact due to reducing the reliance on air transport.
We have jointly produced a webpage enabling access to the following information which can be accessed at https://www.cwu.org/national-agreement- ... ish-times/ This supersedes what has previously been published. This will show:
The provisional and indicative start and finish times based on an up to 1630 last letter and up to a maximum of 60 minutes later
The provisional and indicative start and finish times based on an up to 1630 last letter and up to a maximum of 90 minutes later
The proposed start and finish times laid out in the agreement
The negotiators agreement between Royal Mail and the CWU states that:
Deployment approach-
It is agreed that:
“In 2023 in advance of the Network Window change there will be no change to delivery duty start times relating to this project. Where there are managerial proposals to alter start times these must be supported by changes to local workload, or productivity changes and be subject to the full terms of the IR Framework.”
“Both parties are committed to a joint programme of work designed to achieve the necessary Pipeline, work flow and Mail Centre cycle time improvements required to limit the change to start and finish times up to a maximum of 60 minutes. To achieve this, joint activity will be undertaken at a national and local level to review all such opportunities to advance workload and facilitate this outcome.
“Where improved product flow is consistently achieved as a result of the activity set out above and sustained for a period of 3 months prior to deployment in March 2024 then start and finish times will be moved accordingly. Performance during this period will be jointly monitored and reviewed by the Joint Working Groups with a view to resolving any issues.
“Where this programme of work does not make it possible to limit the change to up to 60 minutes, during March 2024 delivery start and finish times will move up to a maximum of 90 minutes later as a result of extended network window, the last letter delivery time at this point will move to up to 16:30.”
“Last letter Delivery completion times will vary up to 16.30 hrs though the majority of deliveries across the UK will be planned to complete before 15.30 hrs, with the vast majority by 16.00 hrs. It is recognised that a small exceptional number of rural deliveries will continue to completed later than 16.30 hrs.”
Provisional and indicative start times based on a change of up to 60 minutes
If through the joint programme of work designed to achieve the necessary Pipeline, workflow and Mail Centre cycle time improvements required to limit the change to start and finish times up to a maximum of 60 minutes the proposals would see:
19% of walks finish up to 30 minutes later
81% finish between 30 and 60 minutes later
Based on this analysis 64% of walks have a last letter time up to 15.30, with 93% up to 16.00.
Provisional and indicative start times based on a change of up to 90 minutes
Using the most up to date analysis of the data relating to the indicative later start and finish times using up to 90 minutes, the proposals would see:
19% of walks across the country finishing up to 30 minutes later
20% finish between 30 and 60 minutes later
And 61% finish between 60 and 90 minutes later
Based on this analysis 44% of walks have a last letter time up to 15.30, increasing to 76% up to 16.00. It is recognised that a small exceptional number of rural deliveries will continue to be completed later than 16.30 hrs.
How the proposed changes have been worked out
It is important to provide clarification that the indicative modelling assumptions have been completed using the following information:
Delivery Duty Set (DDS) data from May 2023,
Finish time is calculated as 15 minutes after last letter time
All associated data and times are for 1254 Delivery Offices and Large SPDO’s
All associated data and times are based on Wednesday attendance, using the dominant duty pattern for a Full-Time duty within the office
Both parties understand that there will be local factors and circumstances which have influenced the outputs of the indicative modelling that may not have been captured accurately, however those aspects will be addressed through the National & Local joint working groups and further reviewed in line with the deployment approach.
Working together to explore possible further improvements
The new national network will be designed based on an up to 3-hour extension to the network window at end state of the programme.
The degree to which this change will impact Delivery Offices will be different by Mail Centre, dependent on local arrangements and position in the network.
Between May 2023 and September 2023, newly established National and Local Joint Royal Mail/CWU Working Groups will explore if the modelled impact on Delivery start and finish times can be improved upon.
As set out above, both parties are committed to a joint programme of work designed to achieve the necessary Pipeline, workflow and Mail Centre cycle time improvements required to limit the change to start and finish times up to a maximum of 60 minutes.
Where this programme of work does not make it possible to limit the change to up to 60 minutes, during March 2024 delivery start and finish times will move up to a maximum of 90 minutes later as a result of extended network window, the last letter delivery time at this point will move to up to 16:30.
“Exception process for all employees (Delivery, Processing, Distribution) to accommodate caring and other requirements.
As a result of the above changes to working patterns many individuals will need to adjust their attendance times. Royal Mail will ensure that in the vast majority of cases these changes will be minimal and can be accommodated with enough notice and support. However, some employees will have responsibilities and commitments in their personal lives which may make this more difficult. Royal Mail will therefore strive to accommodate at all times the needs of individual employees, whilst also meeting the needs of the operation. Royal Mail and the CWU will jointly develop the process and guidance which will be used to support all front-line employees.”
Deploying the changes
It is important to confirm that the changes to start and finish times would be deployed in delivery in March 2024 and both parties will ensure that all employees will know the detail of the changes three months prior to deployment, recognising the degree of change in some delivery locations.
The high level timelines are:
National and Local Joint Working Groups established and will explore if the modelled impact on Delivery start and finish times can be improved –from June ‘23
Deploy solutions identified through Joint Working Group – by August ‘23
Delivery employee informed of change to start and finish times – December ‘23
Exception’s process opens – from December ‘23
Deployment of the Network Window Change – March 2024
In addition to the publication of the indicative modelling exercise both parties continue to work on an FAQ document (see appendix B) alongside the information and further information will follow including how the National and Local JWG will function going forwards.
Both parties have agreed that there will be a central contact point for questions and/or points of clarification to be sent to be dealt with by the National JWG and the email is: questions@royalmail.com
The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
The time has come for union.
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luddite
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Re: Here it is
Sorry mate can't help, I put royalmailchat on FB to sleep for 30 days as I couldn't stand it anymore, literally first post back was this one. Someone on here will be clever enough to put a link up.
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NPC00030300
- Posts: 10
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Re: Here it is
They can keep their 30 pieces of silver still voting NO
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ted_e_bear
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sixfoottwo
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 569
- Joined: 11 May 2017, 15:15
- Gender: Male
Re: Here it is
Can't buy me off either, no chance they have some front 
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thefox
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Re: Here it is
Good man cheers for thatBroxi51 wrote: ↑16 Jun 2023, 18:04https://www.cwu.org/later-starts-joint-statement/
Gives you the later start and finishing times
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thefox
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Re: Here it is
Unfortunately the 1400 plus back pay will be enough to get it through i think