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manager going to workers house after calling in sick
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Ali831
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
If a manager basis his assumption on a genuine sick call whether or not the car is at home is a non starter.. another family member could be using it, staff member could be at drs or collecting a prescription. A manager rocks up at my house if I call in sick wouldn't even get the door opened for them
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Basildon Bond
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
https://www.acas.org.uk/keeping-in-touch-during-absence
Keeping in touch during absence
Employers and employees should agree on how to stay in touch during absence and how much contact is reasonable.
There are some types of absence where keeping in touch is not usually needed. For example, if an employee is on holiday. However, the employee might still ask their employer to update them about certain things while they're off.
There are other types of absence where an employee might want regular contact. For example, to know what's going on at work while they're on maternity leave.
When talking about keeping in touch, the employer and employee should agree:
If someone's off because of a mental health problem
An employer should keep in regular contact with an employee who is off sick because of a mental health problem. Employees often benefit from keeping in touch.
However, employers should make sure their employee agrees to the contact and that it's not overwhelming.
Keeping employees updated while they're off work
Employers should update employees who are off work for any reason about:
For example, an employee is off sick due to a disability and misses an opportunity to apply for a promotion. This could be disability discrimination.
Keeping in touch during absence
Employers and employees should agree on how to stay in touch during absence and how much contact is reasonable.
There are some types of absence where keeping in touch is not usually needed. For example, if an employee is on holiday. However, the employee might still ask their employer to update them about certain things while they're off.
There are other types of absence where an employee might want regular contact. For example, to know what's going on at work while they're on maternity leave.
When talking about keeping in touch, the employer and employee should agree:
- how often the contact should be – this will depend on the employee's individual circumstances
- how to contact each other, for example by email, phone or face-to-face meetings
- who the employee will be in contact with – this might be their line manager, another manager or an HR manager
If someone's off because of a mental health problem
An employer should keep in regular contact with an employee who is off sick because of a mental health problem. Employees often benefit from keeping in touch.
However, employers should make sure their employee agrees to the contact and that it's not overwhelming.
Keeping employees updated while they're off work
Employers should update employees who are off work for any reason about:
- promotion or other job opportunities
- redundancies
- reorganisations that could affect their job
- maternity leave or anything related to pregnancy
- adoption leave
- ordinary or shared parental leave
- paternity leave
- parental bereavement leave
- time off for dependants
- jury service
- study leave or time off for training
For example, an employee is off sick due to a disability and misses an opportunity to apply for a promotion. This could be disability discrimination.
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Omega853
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
Probably thought how can I fill my time ? I know I will go out for a nice drive and on the way back stop at Greggs etc . Let's face it they maybe called managers in their job description but the vast majority can't manage and all they mainly do is take orders down the phone
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POSTMAN
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
Notifying absence and
maintaining contact
• Employees will advise of their absence
before the commencement of their
attendance in accordance with the
arrangements set out for their office
• Discussion will cover the reason for
absence, likely duration and anticipated
return date and any support which Royal
Mail may be able to offer
• The employee and their manager should
seek to agree an appropriate time and
date for reviewing together all but very
short absences
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=52975
maintaining contact
• Employees will advise of their absence
before the commencement of their
attendance in accordance with the
arrangements set out for their office
• Discussion will cover the reason for
absence, likely duration and anticipated
return date and any support which Royal
Mail may be able to offer
• The employee and their manager should
seek to agree an appropriate time and
date for reviewing together all but very
short absences
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=52975
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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sixfoottwo
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 11 May 2017, 15:15
- Gender: Male
Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
Quicky guys.
Has the new sick policy been forced in yet?
I've been off for 3 weeks, 1 week self cert and 2 weeks Doc note due to a bike accident, back in now on lso called lght duties
and I've been 'invited' to a meeting with the office dunce.
Last time I was off was about 4 years ago and before that never in the 20+yrs!
It stated they were concerned about my attendance or something like that on the letter!!!
Is this normal now?
Has the new sick policy been forced in yet?
I've been off for 3 weeks, 1 week self cert and 2 weeks Doc note due to a bike accident, back in now on lso called lght duties
Last time I was off was about 4 years ago and before that never in the 20+yrs!
It stated they were concerned about my attendance or something like that on the letter!!!
Is this normal now?
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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- Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
- Gender: Male
Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
New sick policy not in yet. Usually ask for a face to face meeting after 28 days i think.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:39Quicky guys.
Has the new sick policy been forced in yet?
I've been off for 3 weeks, 1 week self cert and 2 weeks Doc note due to a bike accident, back in now on lso called lght dutiesand I've been 'invited' to a meeting with the office dunce.
Last time I was off was about 4 years ago and before that never in the 20+yrs!
It stated they were concerned about my attendance or something like that on the letter!!!
Is this normal now?
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sixfoottwo
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 11 May 2017, 15:15
- Gender: Male
Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
OK thanks aiden01, any ideas why after 3 weeks and docs note I've been summoned? Seems a bit odd to me especially as I'm one of the good ones who doesn't milk the system!!aiden01 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:44New sick policy not in yet. Usually ask for a face to face meeting after 28 days i think.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:39Quicky guys.
Has the new sick policy been forced in yet?
I've been off for 3 weeks, 1 week self cert and 2 weeks Doc note due to a bike accident, back in now on lso called lght dutiesand I've been 'invited' to a meeting with the office dunce.
Last time I was off was about 4 years ago and before that never in the 20+yrs!
It stated they were concerned about my attendance or something like that on the letter!!!
Is this normal now?
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Zicomurphy
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- Joined: 24 Oct 2014, 06:40
- Gender: Male
Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
Under the current agreement 14 days sick absence in a 12 month period will trigger a stage one attendance review and unfortunately, despite your previous excellent sick record, one single three week absence will automatically trigger a stage one.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 19:08OK thanks aiden01, any ideas why after 3 weeks and docs note I've been summoned? Seems a bit odd to me especially as I'm one of the good ones who doesn't milk the system!!aiden01 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:44New sick policy not in yet. Usually ask for a face to face meeting after 28 days i think.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:39Quicky guys.
Has the new sick policy been forced in yet?
I've been off for 3 weeks, 1 week self cert and 2 weeks Doc note due to a bike accident, back in now on lso called lght dutiesand I've been 'invited' to a meeting with the office dunce.
Last time I was off was about 4 years ago and before that never in the 20+yrs!
It stated they were concerned about my attendance or something like that on the letter!!!
Is this normal now?
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sixfoottwo
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 11 May 2017, 15:15
- Gender: Male
Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
OK thanks Zicomurphy.Zicomurphy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 19:51Under the current agreement 14 days sick absence in a 12 month period will trigger a stage one attendance review and unfortunately, despite your previous excellent sick record, one single three week absence will automatically trigger a stage one.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 19:08OK thanks aiden01, any ideas why after 3 weeks and docs note I've been summoned? Seems a bit odd to me especially as I'm one of the good ones who doesn't milk the system!!aiden01 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:44New sick policy not in yet. Usually ask for a face to face meeting after 28 days i think.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:39Quicky guys.
Has the new sick policy been forced in yet?
I've been off for 3 weeks, 1 week self cert and 2 weeks Doc note due to a bike accident, back in now on lso called lght dutiesand I've been 'invited' to a meeting with the office dunce.
Last time I was off was about 4 years ago and before that never in the 20+yrs!
It stated they were concerned about my attendance or something like that on the letter!!!
Is this normal now?
It's been a while so good to know it's standard procedure I guess!
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
Unfortunately most managers will issue the stage1 wether good record or not but fingers crossed you might have a decent one.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 19:08OK thanks aiden01, any ideas why after 3 weeks and docs note I've been summoned? Seems a bit odd to me especially as I'm one of the good ones who doesn't milk the system!!aiden01 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:44New sick policy not in yet. Usually ask for a face to face meeting after 28 days i think.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:39Quicky guys.
Has the new sick policy been forced in yet?
I've been off for 3 weeks, 1 week self cert and 2 weeks Doc note due to a bike accident, back in now on lso called lght dutiesand I've been 'invited' to a meeting with the office dunce.
Last time I was off was about 4 years ago and before that never in the 20+yrs!
It stated they were concerned about my attendance or something like that on the letter!!!
Is this normal now?
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sixfoottwo
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 11 May 2017, 15:15
- Gender: Male
Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
Got a semi decent one in the grand scheme of things I think going off some mentioned on here!aiden01 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:47Unfortunately most managers will issue the stage1 wether good record or not but fingers crossed you might have a decent one.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 19:08OK thanks aiden01, any ideas why after 3 weeks and docs note I've been summoned? Seems a bit odd to me especially as I'm one of the good ones who doesn't milk the system!!aiden01 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:44New sick policy not in yet. Usually ask for a face to face meeting after 28 days i think.sixfoottwo wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 18:39Quicky guys.
Has the new sick policy been forced in yet?
I've been off for 3 weeks, 1 week self cert and 2 weeks Doc note due to a bike accident, back in now on lso called lght dutiesand I've been 'invited' to a meeting with the office dunce.
Last time I was off was about 4 years ago and before that never in the 20+yrs!
It stated they were concerned about my attendance or something like that on the letter!!!
Is this normal now?
Do they have discretion then? I thought once they issue that letter to a sit down it was a given you'd get issued it.
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denhamhoop
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
In theory they have discretion but in practice not really have only ever known them not issue a Stage 1 maybe for 3 fellow workers in 26 years and 2 of them had had heart attacks and heart surgery so pretty major illness
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sixfoottwo
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
Arranged for the area Rep to come in with us, probably overkill and it wont make a blind bit better f difference but thought I'd ask him anyhow
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pieoftheday
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Re: manager going to workers house after calling in sick
Always good to have a witness when talking with a manager 'privately ' no matter what its about, I've learnt not to trust em, even the ones I've gotten to likesixfoottwo wrote: ↑10 Jun 2023, 13:56Arranged for the area Rep to come in with us, probably overkill and it wont make a blind bit better f difference but thought I'd ask him anyhow