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New start times and ballot

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richj2009
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by richj2009 »

Sod it. This company is screwed and unsustainable long term. Stop looking to the future. Just grab the 6% and take the extra cash short term. The long term has gone. No more 40 plus year service awards possible now. I hate this company and how we have been disrespected but its over. Vote yes and get the 6%. Bollocks to it.
Nickvilla20
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Post by Nickvilla20 »

richj2009 wrote:
23 May 2023, 19:42
Sod it. This company is screwed and unsustainable long term. Stop looking to the future. Just grab the 6% and take the extra cash short term. The long term has gone. No more 40 plus year service awards possible now. I hate this company and how we have been disrespected but its over. Vote yes and get the 6%. Bollocks to it.
That’s how I feel to be honest. May as well grab as much as we can off them while it’s available.
daveyeff
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Post by daveyeff »

thats probably exactly what they want. union are probably counting on it.
Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

richj2009 wrote:
23 May 2023, 19:42
Sod it. This company is screwed and unsustainable long term. Stop looking to the future. Just grab the 6% and take the extra cash short term. The long term has gone. No more 40 plus year service awards possible now. I hate this company and how we have been disrespected but its over. Vote yes and get the 6%. Bollocks to it.
Maybe it's more to do with the company carrying on being hostile to staff and reps and pushing through ridiculous revisions.
They probably know the vote won't go through if many areas are still been aggressively targeted by guv'nors.
It's a mess.
Still don't blame the union though, what can you do if elements of the company are on a kamikaze mission
richj2009
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by richj2009 »

There is no longer any alternative other than to grab the 6 and look for other employment. Does anyone think they can deal with this for decades to come. The shitty deal ends in 2 years anyway. Might as well have the payrise until they screw us over p&o style. The union obviously can't be relied upon. This is desperate damage limitation but there is nothing left to hang onto.
nuisance
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Post by nuisance »

I wouldn't throw the towel in yet. Things could still all change in the not-too-distant future. Maybe OFCOM will act eventually. Maybe the board won't last if the ballot result is a no and uncertainty and strikes are ongoing. These things often pass if you hang on long enough.
RTP
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Post by RTP »

This agreement is in danger of taking longer than the magna carta took .

Still no start and finish times to vote on.

Still an extra grand not clarified to give up some of our terms and conditions 🤷🏻‍♂️
olilew
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by olilew »

richj2009 wrote:
23 May 2023, 19:42
Sod it. This company is screwed and unsustainable long term. Stop looking to the future. Just grab the 6% and take the extra cash short term. The long term has gone. No more 40 plus year service awards possible now. I hate this company and how we have been disrespected but its over. Vote yes and get the 6%. Bollocks to it.
Might as well wait and get the extra grand and then f**k off. RM and union don't care if you do and would probably encourage it as long as it's a yes vote. Just so the next generation of posties are on the s**t contracts.
"Just take it out and see how you go......."
Burghboy
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by Burghboy »

So what’s most likely today?

The start/finish times released like the union said they would?

Or

Another delay in the ballot?
LouBarlow
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by LouBarlow »

Another delay.
Burghboy
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by Burghboy »

LouBarlow wrote:
24 May 2023, 05:00
Another delay.
We don’t agree on much, however I think today you may be correct.
high1ander
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by high1ander »

i see inflation has just dropped
that means the ballot papers will go out
i dont think its a coincidence that the vote was put back to the day after the new inflation figures getting released
today they will probably try and tell us that its a good deal and we should vote yes because inflation is falling
the rumour about the extra lump sum will not be confirmed or denied its a seed in the hope we vote for the deal in the off chance we might get it
we wont but the seed has been sown
just my opinion
ill be voting no
Acca Dacca
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by Acca Dacca »

That doesnt mean that prices are coming down, it just means they are rising slower
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Bosley
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by Bosley »

Dave :arrrghhh :evil/mad Ward you're taking the piss now
robking
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Re: New start times and ballot

Post by robking »

high1ander wrote:
24 May 2023, 07:28
i see inflation has just dropped
that means the ballot papers will go out
i dont think its a coincidence that the vote was put back to the day after the new inflation figures getting released
today they will probably try and tell us that its a good deal and we should vote yes because inflation is falling
the rumour about the extra lump sum will not be confirmed or denied its a seed in the hope we vote for the deal in the off chance we might get it
we wont but the seed has been sown
just my opinion
ill be voting no
CPI has dropped to 8.7% which is the headline most people will see and this will no doubt bounce a few more people into voting Yes, but RPI is still stuck on 11.1%.
You have to research hard to find this statistic but because it's still used in a lot of contracts (including Section C of the RMPP) it's still published.