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enskied
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by enskied »

DirtyHarry wrote:
19 May 2023, 17:47
bigal383 wrote:
18 May 2023, 15:22
Ffs lads if you all vote yes to this shower of s**t deal your jobs will be gone .
Your union want u to vote yes so they still get there membership money they’ve let u down and now realised there are f****d the reported money lost is to all temp you to vote yes in which they have stated they will return to operating profit next year !
They’re paying thomson out sorry to say lads you’re being sold down the river by both ends and you need your heads checking if you vote yes .
It’s been a long fight but don’t lay down for these bastards 💪
I think most people know that there is nothing to their advantage in one of the worst deals I have ever seen a union agree with an employer.
The majority in my office is for No.
I cannot, for the life of me, see it being any different at any other D.O.
Two totally different sides of the business Harry.

Processing haven't really got a clue what has been going on in delivery. They just forward it all to us.
They haven't got a clue the real impact this deal is going to make on delivery.

United we stand ?
DirtyHarry
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by DirtyHarry »

enskied wrote:
19 May 2023, 18:04
DirtyHarry wrote:
19 May 2023, 17:47
bigal383 wrote:
18 May 2023, 15:22
Ffs lads if you all vote yes to this shower of s**t deal your jobs will be gone .
Your union want u to vote yes so they still get there membership money they’ve let u down and now realised there are f****d the reported money lost is to all temp you to vote yes in which they have stated they will return to operating profit next year !
They’re paying thomson out sorry to say lads you’re being sold down the river by both ends and you need your heads checking if you vote yes .
It’s been a long fight but don’t lay down for these bastards 💪
I think most people know that there is nothing to their advantage in one of the worst deals I have ever seen a union agree with an employer.
The majority in my office is for No.
I cannot, for the life of me, see it being any different at any other D.O.
Two totally different sides of the business Harry.

Processing haven't really got a clue what has been going on in delivery. They just forward it all to us.
They haven't got a clue the real impact this deal is going to make on delivery.

United we stand ?
True.
The mail centre votes could be a knife in the ribs for delivery staff.
enskied
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by enskied »

And now they all go silent.

This is what it is, we need your support and I realise that you have to think about your own circumstances.

Take a mo to think about ours .

Support us ... We will support you.
clashcityrocker
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by clashcityrocker »

Like we supported them during the mail centre rationalisation a few years back?

And anyway there are so few of them that numerically they can't influence anything.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by SpacePhoenix »

clashcityrocker wrote:
19 May 2023, 19:25
Like we supported them during the mail centre rationalisation a few years back?

And anyway there are so few of them that numerically they can't influence anything.
With us in MCs and RDCs combined being outnumbered by at least 3:1. With the number of staff who've retired over the last few years with hardly any of them being replaced, it could even be 4:1 that we're outnumbered.

tbf is it worth any of us in MCs and RDCs even bothering to vote? Unless the vote is really close, our votes will effectively won't be worth the paper that they're printed on
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enskied
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by enskied »

clashcityrocker wrote:
19 May 2023, 19:25
Like we supported them during the mail centre rationalisation a few years back?

And anyway there are so few of them that numerically they can't influence anything.
Was that after the D2D thing...?
aiden01
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by aiden01 »

enskied wrote:
19 May 2023, 20:43
clashcityrocker wrote:
19 May 2023, 19:25
Like we supported them during the mail centre rationalisation a few years back?

And anyway there are so few of them that numerically they can't influence anything.
Was that after the D2D thing...?
Why does it matter when it was how many times does it have to be said. Delivery outnumber processing an distribution by at least 3-1 so if all the forecasts on here from delivery people are right it will be a massive NO vote. let us all wait an see.
Jpro747
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by Jpro747 »

I’ll be voting no. If it comes in as a yes I will be leaving the union and getting another job asap.
LouBarlow
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by LouBarlow »

Jpro747 wrote:
22 May 2023, 17:10
I’ll be voting no. If it comes in as a yes I will be leaving the union and getting another job asap.
I’d start looking now as all of the changes will be coming in either way and you will have less money without the deal. Good luck finding anything out there that pays as well though.
77SAMPOST77
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

LouBarlow wrote:
23 May 2023, 06:56
Jpro747 wrote:
22 May 2023, 17:10
I’ll be voting no. If it comes in as a yes I will be leaving the union and getting another job asap.
I’d start looking now as all of the changes will be coming in either way and you will have less money without the deal. Good luck finding anything out there that pays as well though.
More scaremongering from doom and gloom Lou .
LouBarlow
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Re: Left the business and can see wha's happening

Post by LouBarlow »

77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 May 2023, 07:27
LouBarlow wrote:
23 May 2023, 06:56
Jpro747 wrote:
22 May 2023, 17:10
I’ll be voting no. If it comes in as a yes I will be leaving the union and getting another job asap.
I’d start looking now as all of the changes will be coming in either way and you will have less money without the deal. Good luck finding anything out there that pays as well though.
More scaremongering from doom and gloom Lou .
It is touching that you seem obsessed with me, but find some new material for each time you quote me.