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Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

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LouBarlow
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by LouBarlow »

Jimbo8t2 wrote:
19 May 2023, 07:16
LouBarlow wrote:
19 May 2023, 05:23
Monday is dead when it comes to letters though, so you could merge Saturday and Monday traffic easy enough.
It’s virtually impossible to catch up on 2 days work here even if it is a Monday, unless you want 1.30 overtime. Then you got another days of householders to put in during the week so you’d be out later.
Yeah to be fair our revision hasn’t kicked in yet. A few months away yet.
twoloops
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by twoloops »

I am sure if RM put out some Monday to Friday walks they would be inundated 🙋‍♂️
KilledOff
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by KilledOff »

Slightly off topic but 'Keith Williams also says' in the financials yesterday,

"Quality of service has been significantly affected by industrial action and high levels of absence"

Wot, nothing else then Keith? You sure?? ;liar

Sorry Keith but QofS has been in decline much longer than you're telling the markets!

As we all know.
chickenwittle
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by chickenwittle »

TOWER1 wrote:
19 May 2023, 09:18
Re VR
Area rep in unit on my day off
Talking about the ballot etc.
A colleague told me that he said VR was back on the table. He didn't have a chance to elaborate, and now on leave.
I will ask a rep regarding this.

In the meantime, has anyone else heard this?

Perhaps a bit off topic, apologies.
Yes told this by area rep also , VR rate is only 1 year though.
enskied
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by enskied »

Still only 50% of mail being delivered daily at ours and a struggle to do that. If we can't deliver it over six days how the hell are we going to get it done in 5.
More hours need investing in the office to stand a chance, and I can't see that happening.
Chronic understaffing for quick profit is to blame.
They can no longer totally dismiss the USO. Which is what they have done at our for years, long before Covid.

Hope that OFCOM are more proactive with Royal Mail from now on. They can not be trusted to provide truthful figures.
TOWER1
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

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chickenwittle wrote:
19 May 2023, 15:14
TOWER1 wrote:
19 May 2023, 09:18
Re VR
Area rep in unit on my day off
Talking about the ballot etc.
A colleague told me that he said VR was back on the table. He didn't have a chance to elaborate, and now on leave.
I will ask a rep regarding this.

In the meantime, has anyone else heard this?

Perhaps a bit off topic, apologies.
Yes told this by area rep also , VR rate is only 1 year though.
TOWER1
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by TOWER1 »

chickenwittle wrote:
19 May 2023, 15:14
TOWER1 wrote:
19 May 2023, 09:18
Re VR
Area rep in unit on my day off
Talking about the ballot etc.
A colleague told me that he said VR was back on the table. He didn't have a chance to elaborate, and now on leave.
I will ask a rep regarding this.

In the meantime, has anyone else heard this?

Perhaps a bit off topic, apologies.
Yes told this by area rep also , VR rate is only 1 year though.

Hi l may have my slow hat on...what is meant by VR rate only 1 year....I have done 9 years.... thanks again
Thommo44
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by Thommo44 »

k979aaa wrote:
18 May 2023, 22:05
redrobbo wrote:
18 May 2023, 21:59
I would definitely say yes to Mon -friday I wonder what the result would be if there was a vote on that
Well it will not work that way someone will do Saturdays if they like it or not you will have a roster and the mail that does not go out saturday will be done by the people during the week. And 18% job losses and if your very lucky you may not have to do eight Saturdays on the bounce!
Exactly, the number of letters is the same but they only have to pay over 5 days not 6. 20% reduction in labour (head count), more potential profit for Royal Mail
zz666
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by zz666 »

Deliveries would be unachievable over 5 days instead of 6.
rubberbond
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by rubberbond »

seaside wrote:
19 May 2023, 08:36
If it's said that they will be back in profit next year, then I can't see the government agreeing to cut the USO to 5 days. Can not see compulsory redundancies either, as too many people want to leave, which does not say a lot about the work environment that we now have.
By then we may have a change of government and I can’t see a Labour government -presuming they win the election - agreeing to this , and anyway how about getting Monday to Friday work out on time instead of always two or three days behind all the time.
norris9
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by norris9 »

KilledOff wrote:
19 May 2023, 15:02
Slightly off topic but 'Keith Williams also says' in the financials yesterday,

"Quality of service has been significantly affected by industrial action and high levels of absence"

Wot, nothing else then Keith? You sure?? ;liar

Sorry Keith but QofS has been in decline much longer than you're telling the markets!

As we all know.
The integrity of management throughout the business is appalling.

Keith - you have been purposefully understaffing us for 2 years.

Keith - you have added 40mins+ work to our duties which are now impossible to complete, on top of understaffing offices.

Keith - you do not care about the USO or the customer.
enskied
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by enskied »

norris9 wrote:
19 May 2023, 18:10
KilledOff wrote:
19 May 2023, 15:02
Slightly off topic but 'Keith Williams also says' in the financials yesterday,

"Quality of service has been significantly affected by industrial action and high levels of absence"

Wot, nothing else then Keith? You sure?? ;liar

Sorry Keith but QofS has been in decline much longer than you're telling the markets!

As we all know.
The integrity of management throughout the business is appalling.

Keith - you have been purposefully understaffing us for 2 years.

Keith - you have added 40mins+ work to our duties which are now impossible to complete, on top of understaffing offices.

Keith - you do not care about the USO or the customer.
But Norris votes yes.
dazzler123
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by dazzler123 »

zz666 wrote:
19 May 2023, 17:58
Deliveries would be unachievable over 5 days instead of 6.
Deliveries are unachievable over 6 days as is. The people running this company are like children playing with scissors
chickenwittle
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by chickenwittle »

TOWER1 wrote:
19 May 2023, 16:20
chickenwittle wrote:
19 May 2023, 15:14
TOWER1 wrote:
19 May 2023, 09:18
Re VR
Area rep in unit on my day off
Talking about the ballot etc.
A colleague told me that he said VR was back on the table. He didn't have a chance to elaborate, and now on leave.
I will ask a rep regarding this.

In the meantime, has anyone else heard this?

Perhaps a bit off topic, apologies.
Yes told this by area rep also , VR rate is only 1 year though.

Hi l may have my slow hat on...what is meant by VR rate only 1 year....I have done 9 years.... thanks again
1 years salary is maximum pay out , use to be 2.
TopperGas
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Re: Keith williams says end saturday deliveries

Post by TopperGas »

What's the betting if the Government agreed to Mon to Fri deliveries, they would be then pushing for a 3 day delivery in the not too distant future?