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Later start times & extra lump sum

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RTP
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

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Burghboy wrote:
14 May 2023, 11:54
gb93 wrote:
14 May 2023, 10:14
Are these new Start & finish times for every delivery office & the mythical extra lump sum as promised & eluded too by Dave Ward before ballot ever going to come.
Is this the reason the ballot keeps getting put back so Dave isnt seen to be failing in his promise :hmmmm
They announced at the Birmingham reps meeting that they had the times, why have they not released them? What do they have to hide?
Well according to Martin Walsh they are still working on the times
RTP
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

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Here you go. His 2nd post in this

viewtopic.php?f=87&t=109885
guardianangel
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

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mark.cup wrote:
14 May 2023, 12:04
Our office recently switched to bigger rounds and separate packet carts...

Yesterday we were told all mail to be left unless it wasn't cleared the day before and only big packets to be done which some say hadn't been done for 3 days!

Management are absolutely clueless doing specials and collections on stuff that's miles away from your original delivery meant we have never achieved so little in day.
Exactly the managers don't know how to manage the increased workload with fewer staff,they've been thrown under the bus too,its just a shame they take it out on us instead of having the balls to stand up to their boss.
seaside
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

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Yes the workload is too much now, which will be stressful for most, trying to explain everyday to the managers that you do not have the time to complete everything. The sickness will go up, the more you have to do, will lead to more knees, hips, feet, back, shoulder and of course stress problems. I would imagine that most posties enjoyed this job before, but would now jump at the chance of a redundcy package. This I think will be one of the main reasons that a no vote could end up as the result of the vote.
X_hamster
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

Post by X_hamster »

seaside wrote:
15 May 2023, 08:50
Yes the workload is too much now, which will be stressful for most, trying to explain everyday to the managers that you do not have the time to complete everything. The sickness will go up, the more you have to do, will lead to more knees, hips, feet, back, shoulder and of course stress problems. I would imagine that most posties enjoyed this job before, but would now jump at the chance of a redundcy package. This I think will be one of the main reasons that a no vote could end up as the result of the vote.
Yup more leavers and redundancy.. all part of the plan.

More new starters on the gig contracts, making it easier to align it all into one contract as the balance gradually tips.

VOTE NO
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

Post by SpacePhoenix »

guardianangel wrote:
15 May 2023, 07:04
mark.cup wrote:
14 May 2023, 12:04
Our office recently switched to bigger rounds and separate packet carts...

Yesterday we were told all mail to be left unless it wasn't cleared the day before and only big packets to be done which some say hadn't been done for 3 days!

Management are absolutely clueless doing specials and collections on stuff that's miles away from your original delivery meant we have never achieved so little in day.
Exactly the managers don't know how to manage the increased workload with fewer staff,they've been thrown under the bus too,its just a shame they take it out on us instead of having the balls to stand up to their boss.
Probably it's a case of if they were to stand up to their boss, they'd probably just get replaced
Clairedarep
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

Post by Clairedarep »

Burghboy wrote:
14 May 2023, 11:54
gb93 wrote:
14 May 2023, 10:14
Are these new Start & finish times for every delivery office & the mythical extra lump sum as promised & eluded too by Dave Ward before ballot ever going to come.
Is this the reason the ballot keeps getting put back so Dave isnt seen to be failing in his promise :hmmmm
They announced at the Birmingham reps meeting that they had the times, why have they not released them? What do they have to hide?
Yeah I was there and spoke to Dave ward, he also said there is a third party involved regarding the additional lump sum but wouldn’t give details
guardianangel
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

Post by guardianangel »

Clairedarep wrote:
15 May 2023, 10:28
Burghboy wrote:
14 May 2023, 11:54
gb93 wrote:
14 May 2023, 10:14
Are these new Start & finish times for every delivery office & the mythical extra lump sum as promised & eluded too by Dave Ward before ballot ever going to come.
Is this the reason the ballot keeps getting put back so Dave isnt seen to be failing in his promise :hmmmm
They announced at the Birmingham reps meeting that they had the times, why have they not released them? What do they have to hide?
Yeah I was there and spoke to Dave ward, he also said there is a third party involved regarding the additional lump sum but wouldn’t give details
I wonder what Dave's lump sum will be for getting the deal through,room for thought.
flimflamman
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

Post by flimflamman »

Exactly the managers don't know how to manage the increased workload with fewer staff,they've been thrown under the bus too,its just a shame they take it out on us instead of having the balls to stand up to their boss.
They weren't thrown under the bus,they knew what was expected of them and they happily crawled under the bus with a bonus stuffed in their back pockets
norris9
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

Post by norris9 »

flimflamman wrote:
15 May 2023, 16:12
Exactly the managers don't know how to manage the increased workload with fewer staff,they've been thrown under the bus too,its just a shame they take it out on us instead of having the balls to stand up to their boss.
They weren't thrown under the bus,they knew what was expected of them and they happily crawled under the bus with a bonus stuffed in their back pockets
Managers never say it, but they want us all to stay out a complete even if that means we are walking for an extra hour or two each day....

why would we do that for them....they harass us now and then, so there's no chance I'd stay out to help make their job even easier, whilst they go home before me.

Managers should go out and do overtime on delivery for the wage we get.... but of course they'd laugh at the idea.
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Re: Later start times & extra lump sum

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Yeah I was there and spoke to Dave ward, he also said there is a third party involved regarding the additional lump sum but wouldn’t give details
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Fascinating. Who could it be? An extra £1000 bung would mean a million quid.