come againL Tommo wrote:This reply to my original post on this subject...
From Bullfrog,,
Posts like this, which are abusive, devalue the aims of this message board. Fair enough if you want to only engage with like minded people but counter productive when it comes to meaningful communications with other members of the same organisation.
I am not going to defend my position as a manager because I don't need to, believe what I say to be genuine or bury your head in the sand I will not be losing sleep over it.
When it comes to the Pension issue (which is what we are talking about here) I think that the wording of last years agreement (CMA at least) left allot to be desired. RM have taken it that CMA/CWU will support their pension reform as part of the packages agreed and the wording would seem to back that up. However the business is being naive in the extreme if it believed that both Unions would agree to support measures that are detrimental to their own membership.
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I dont give a shite if you or anyone else think MY POST was abusive... Call me anti PC if you will... I know in my heart i never SINGLED you out...
Just asked you a question....!! U never answered... SCREW TRAIT...
but went banging on how MY post was devaluing the mess board and counter productive...
I just dont trust ANYONE who is a scab.... END OF.... Now i see you crack another corker of..."my union never went on strike...
But you never had the balls to stand up and go with your morals.... Or lack of em....
You then said... "I continue to be disapointed that the CMA do not recommend that the membership avoid undertaking work that is proper to another trade union..... IE.. Cross a picket line.......
Now im told By a screw that the CMA is a body and not a UNION??? Can you clear this up BULLFROG???
Any which way. EVERY MAN WOMAN N BEAST HAS A CONCIENCE AND MORALS.. Some more than others.....
LIVE BY EM WHEN THE 30 PIECES OF SILVER ARE ON THE TABLE....
Then i will open my arms and my posts on screws will cease.... UNTIL that day or hell freezes over... I will carry on with MY OPINIONS...
Just like you do screw!!!
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Ok let's not have another thread f****d,IWW,Tommo and bullfrog let's leave it there.
My pennies worth.
Managers as a rule aren't going to go on strike when the 'workers' are,that's life.
It's the same everywhere,this pensions dispute though is a different matter and i do feel that they should come out with us,but it aint gonna happen.
My pennies worth.
Managers as a rule aren't going to go on strike when the 'workers' are,that's life.
It's the same everywhere,this pensions dispute though is a different matter and i do feel that they should come out with us,but it aint gonna happen.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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My problem with this whole issue is WHY there has to be pension reform.
RM took a massive payment break while we were still paying in. I DON'T remember RM asking US if we wanted to take a payment break.
Then some twat trys to explain that RM were advised to take this payment break to avoid paying higher taxes/charges. While all the time in the last couple of years the stock market has hit 5 years highs. Our pensions should be sitting pretty me old mates.But excuse me,whats the f***ing outcome. The pensions in a f***ing mess and who is going to have to pay for it? US. Why dont RM sue the advisors?????? We should not have to sit around and watch people f**k with our money and then tell US that we will have to forefit our pension and benefits. If it was me f***ing up my money and I couldn t pay the mortgage I would be out of my house before the bank could say "Your a c*** Mr Crozier."
Banks make billions a year by scewing customers and investing our money. When they f**k up they just charge us more. Why dont RM just sue the investors/banks that advised them incorrectly. Come on theres enough to go around Mr Barclays.
f**k 'em, lets srtriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike.
RM took a massive payment break while we were still paying in. I DON'T remember RM asking US if we wanted to take a payment break.
Then some twat trys to explain that RM were advised to take this payment break to avoid paying higher taxes/charges. While all the time in the last couple of years the stock market has hit 5 years highs. Our pensions should be sitting pretty me old mates.But excuse me,whats the f***ing outcome. The pensions in a f***ing mess and who is going to have to pay for it? US. Why dont RM sue the advisors?????? We should not have to sit around and watch people f**k with our money and then tell US that we will have to forefit our pension and benefits. If it was me f***ing up my money and I couldn t pay the mortgage I would be out of my house before the bank could say "Your a c*** Mr Crozier."
Banks make billions a year by scewing customers and investing our money. When they f**k up they just charge us more. Why dont RM just sue the investors/banks that advised them incorrectly. Come on theres enough to go around Mr Barclays.
f**k 'em, lets srtriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike.
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And if GORDON BROWN can find the money for NORTHERN ROCK why in god's name not for ROYALMAIL AND OUR PENSION!. FOR ALL THIS IS HIS FAULT FOR HE SHOULD FIND THE MONEY FOR HIS MISTAKE NOW!.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Remember Gordon Brown hit all the pension funds for tax whenever he first became chancellor (even though everyone told him it would be a disaster for the industry) so Brown is as much to blame as RM senior management.
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What happened was we were gonna get busted with tax because our pension was so good and we had ooodles of cash in it.
So a pension holiday was the right thing to do.
The thing is,once the holiday got underway and there was A POUND deficit,alarm bells should of rung and things started up again.
But no,it didn't happen,so it's a massive stich up on a grand scale.
So a pension holiday was the right thing to do.
The thing is,once the holiday got underway and there was A POUND deficit,alarm bells should of rung and things started up again.
But no,it didn't happen,so it's a massive stich up on a grand scale.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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And ultimately we are still a government owned company to which before the northern rock crisis they indeed were not!. But they still found the monney all £57 billion of it!. FOR NOW IS THE TIME FOR GORDON THE DITHERING BROWN TO HAVE SOME BACKBONE AND SHOW US THE MONNEY!.FOR IT IS HIS FAULT AND HE SHOULD PAY NOW!.POSTMAN wrote:What happened was we were gonna get busted with tax because our pension was so good and we had ooodles of cash in it.
So a pension holiday was the right thing to do.
The thing is,once the holiday got underway and there was A POUND deficit,alarm bells should of rung and things started up again.
But no,it didn't happen,so it's a massive stich up on a grand scale.
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The leaders of this country don't give a monkeys about us or our pension. They have become part of the establishment just like ward and hayes who sold us down the river.dvbuk55 wrote:Well I'm still waiting for a response by the leadership to Mr Browns abrogation of responsibility - haven't heard a peep yet.
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Oh and don't forget alan johnson for he now has a great job!. i could rearly see billy hayes as minster for health and holland's pie's!.tpost wrote:The leaders of this country don't give a monkeys about us or our pension. They have become part of the establishment just like ward and hayes who sold us down the river.dvbuk55 wrote:Well I'm still waiting for a response by the leadership to Mr Browns abrogation of responsibility - haven't heard a peep yet.
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Interesting that the CWU haven't organised a rally for us to go down there.k979aaa wrote:Maybe we should both bang on his door i know where he live's!.dvbuk55 wrote:Well I'm still waiting for a response by the leadership to Mr Browns abrogation of responsibility - haven't heard a peep yet.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Would'nt get many people on deliveries to attend a rally unless it was on a Sunday, everyone will still be out delivering till tea-time 
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
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:lfo :cfo well what about "FLEXABILITY" also ! not only are they ripping off our pensions they are ripping off our bodies ! in our office its total chaos,heavy everyday and all im hearing is all crap about being flexible ! to cop that we have "PEAGUSUS" which is just a f.in joke and im sick of this job - all walks will be moved around,bits took off one walk on to another e.t.c. we wont be alive to get our pension as we will be worked to DEATH! im so upset i was proud to be a postie - now i want out - but before i go if its another strike BRING IT ON 
f..k these two :cfo :lfo you have made so many old school workers that are the only ones left that do the job dedicated and securely with pride , want out- you have cut costs so the service has gone and now you are about to take off our pension - 
it makes me so upset. as for managers out on pickett - worried now are you huh you have all met more and more cut backs that have been agreed by your twats above you - you have been YES men so in time you will too see that the company have shat on you also - you have been fighting to keep your jobs but not thinking of the long term effects to ALL. im not going without a fight - in the hope all will be well again , so lets all FIGHT ON HOPE a turn around can happen ,stick together (it may get tougth again ) and if not -and i say this with a tear in my eye SEEK ALTERNATIVE EMPLOYMENT !! 
TAKE CARE EVERYONE 
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f..k these two :cfo :lfo you have made so many old school workers that are the only ones left that do the job dedicated and securely with pride , want out- you have cut costs so the service has gone and now you are about to take off our pension - it makes me so upset. as for managers out on pickett - worried now are you huh you have all met more and more cut backs that have been agreed by your twats above you - you have been YES men so in time you will too see that the company have shat on you also - you have been fighting to keep your jobs but not thinking of the long term effects to ALL. im not going without a fight - in the hope all will be well again , so lets all FIGHT ON HOPE a turn around can happen ,stick together (it may get tougth again ) and if not -and i say this with a tear in my eye SEEK ALTERNATIVE EMPLOYMENT !! TAKE CARE EVERYONE :lfo :cfo