PEC

[Edward Hunter]

The Union were told by RM they could look at the companies books long before they actually bothered to.They fail to mention this.They have now recommend a deal that lessens our ts and cs in exchange for a poor pay rise. But dont worry guys, "we are still in the room." Fact is the union are the nodding dogs in the corner. Royal Mail have everything they wanted from this "agreement." They are still going to bring in exactly what they want, just as they have been doing. The PEC havent had their terms eroded.RM managers have been well rewarded.Just chuck the peasents walking the streets a few scraps and we can get our finances back in to profit at their expense. Our area rep has said he will not endorse this terrible deal he has been told to sell. Its a NO from me, because this surrender sees the union all but redundant anyway.

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The Union were told by RM they could look at the companies books long before they actually bothered to.They fail to mention this.They have now recommend a deal that lessens our ts and cs in exchange for a poor pay rise. But dont worry guys, "we are still in the room." Fact is the union are the nodding dogs in the corner. Royal Mail have everything they wanted from this "agreement." They are still going to bring in exactly what they want, just as they have been doing. The PEC havent had their terms eroded.RM managers have been well rewarded.Just chuck the peasents walking the streets a few scraps and we can get our finances back in to profit at their expense. Our area rep has said he will not endorse this terrible deal he has been told to sell. Its a NO from me, because this surrender sees the union all but redundant anyway.

People in my office are bitter because after losing around £1000 each they have basically got a deal that’s a pay cut.

what was the point of the strikes when RM got most of what it wanted anyway. Our Rep has now resigned and I can’t see anyone doing the job after this deal.

[aiden01]

not surprised people who have a cushy job (processing etc) want to bend over and take it , they havent got to walk 13 mile a day !

VOTE NO !

Don't dismiss what they do in processing,
Yes, I believe it is easier than delivery, but I doubt they have a hasel free work life.
Just better than ours.

For once we agree. personally if i was on delivery i would be long gone.

Nice to shake your hand at last Aiden.

Def mate

[sweepster70]

The union is the one that's going to suffer long term. The union is finished if this gets in. People will cancel subs, and royal mail will push for more and more every year, and eventually the union will be no more in royal mail. Its a sad state of affairs.

What are you talking about? No they aren't. We are the union, why would we want to lessen our influence in the workplace?

[claystones]

If thers a yes vote people will cancel there subs and this will weaken the cwu even more vote NO

[Linden14]

Defo no here

[chocolatesaltyballs]

38 years! You’ve outstayed your welcome. Time to go! You sound desperate now.

Ditto, leave now with the rest of the self serving PEC , you sold us out to save your own skins, pigs feeding at the trough.

[clashcityrocker]

38 years! You’ve outstayed your welcome. Time to go! You sound desperate now.

Ditto, leave now with the rest of the self serving PEC ,

And then what?

[chocolatesaltyballs]

38 years! You’ve outstayed your welcome. Time to go! You sound desperate now.

Ditto, leave now with the rest of the self serving PEC ,

And then what?

We continue to fight or the company folds, the jobs headed towards minimum wage as it is so I couldn't care less if it folds.

[clashcityrocker]

We continue to fight or the company folds, the jobs headed towards minimum wage as it is so I couldn't care less if it folds.

But who is we?
You have just called for all your negotiators to resign.
How are you going to fight without any representatives?

You might not care but you have no responsibility for 120 000 workers do you?

[chocolatesaltyballs]

We continue to fight or the company folds, the jobs headed towards minimum wage as it is so I couldn't care less if it folds.

But who is we?
You have just called for all your negotiators to resign.
How are you going to fight without any representatives?

You might not care but you have no responsibility for 120 000 workers do you?

They clearly are no longer representing a sizable section of the membership me included. So no, they don't represent us and we need a change at the top.

[clashcityrocker]

They were elected to their positions.
When are the next elections? Who are you advocating we vote for to replace them?

As to whether they represent the members or not - we will find out when the ballot result is announced.
You might be disappointed.

[aiden01]

38 years! You’ve outstayed your welcome. Time to go! You sound desperate now.

Ditto, leave now with the rest of the self serving PEC ,

And then what?

We continue to fight or the company folds, the jobs headed towards minimum wage as it is so I couldn't care less if it folds.

Speak for yourself but i am sure bar a few on here nobody wants the company to fold.

[chocolatesaltyballs]

38 years! You’ve outstayed your welcome. Time to go! You sound desperate now.

Ditto, leave now with the rest of the self serving PEC ,

And then what?

We continue to fight or the company folds, the jobs headed towards minimum wage as it is so I couldn't care less if it folds.

Speak for yourself but i am sure bar a few on here nobody wants the company to fold.

Well I clearly am speaking for myself hence the reason I said " I " couldn't care less.

[aiden01]

38 years! You’ve outstayed your welcome. Time to go! You sound desperate now.

Ditto, leave now with the rest of the self serving PEC ,

And then what?

We continue to fight or the company folds, the jobs headed towards minimum wage as it is so I couldn't care less if it folds.

Speak for yourself but i am sure bar a few on here nobody wants the company to fold.

Well I clearly am speaking for myself hence the reason I said " I " couldn't care less.

You also said we continue fight or the company folds. like i said bar a few on here nobody wants that.120,000 jobs gone.