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are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

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daveyeff
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are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

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ours are. our unit rep was dead against this deal last week. now, he's going round the office on a ''whisper campaign'' trying to get people to see the deal the unions way. its as if he's been brainwashed. invasion of the bodysnatchers comes to mind. we've had CWU newsflashes on gate meetings, Zoom meetings with the link to view it. branch officials are coming out to ''explain'' the deal. its actually embarrassing to witness. they are almost begging us to vote yes. on the union whatsapp group theres been a questions and answers session. they are saying the delay to the vote will add a further 350 odd quid to the 500 quid lump sum. giving us 850 in back money!! a dangled carrot if ever there was one. they've also stated that a ''no vote' will mean RM will remove the 1.6 billion pound loan from the table thereby putting the company into administration, financial scaremongering, and blackmail of a sort. one lad asked are the EVRs coming back on the table? as lots of us just want out. yes was the answer, BUT not at the 2yrs pay previously agreed. its now down to 24 grand, the ill health is a maximum of 30 week (inc P.I.L.O.N) how the hell they expect people to vote for all this crap is beyond me but they are f***ing well trying, aye are they.
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

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Ward and Fury aren’t even selling us the deal. I thought they’d have done a YouTube sesh running through the thing once it was announced but no. Tells you everything.
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by clashcityrocker »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 19:46
ours are. our unit rep was dead against this deal last week. now, he's going round the office on a ''whisper campaign'' trying to get people to see the deal the unions way.
They are CWU representatives.
If they don't toe the party line, then shouldn't they resign their position?
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

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Area rep is, local rep is dead against it
daveyeff
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

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they are entitled to put their own views out, not just a scripted pile of propaganda shite. ive always been union through and through clash but this is absolutely disgraceful.
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

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clashcityrocker wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 19:53
They are CWU representatives.
If they don't toe the party line, then shouldn't they resign their position?
No, it is their job to represent and look after the union members. An ounce of integrity would be nice from them.
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I think I’m an ok Rep, but I cannot sell snow to an Eskimo!!
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Post by thefox »

Ours is voting no.
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Post by Duesouth »

No rep should be telling you what to vote for. Yes they can advise but we all have brains on what we decide to vote for.
world class male
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Post by world class male »

can someone please explain what a rep is? i've seen ours perhaps 4 or 5 times since last august, and only once on picket line :left:
like others, my subs will be stopped once ballot paper arrives, we know we won't get a better turd of a deal but jeez, have the leaders sold us out,
i'd even vote yes if they all walked out without a pay off, the job is lost forever i'm afraid
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by CRIBMAD »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 19:46
ours are. our unit rep was dead against this deal last week. now, he's going round the office on a ''whisper campaign'' trying to get people to see the deal the unions way. its as if he's been brainwashed. invasion of the bodysnatchers comes to mind. we've had CWU newsflashes on gate meetings, Zoom meetings with the link to view it. branch officials are coming out to ''explain'' the deal. its actually embarrassing to witness. they are almost begging us to vote yes. on the union whatsapp group theres been a questions and answers session. they are saying the delay to the vote will add a further 350 odd quid to the 500 quid lump sum. giving us 850 in back money!! a dangled carrot if ever there was one. they've also stated that a ''no vote' will mean RM will remove the 1.6 billion pound loan from the table thereby putting the company into administration, financial scaremongering, and blackmail of a sort. one lad asked are the EVRs coming back on the table? as lots of us just want out. yes was the answer, BUT not at the 2yrs pay previously agreed. its now down to 24 grand, the ill health is a maximum of 30 week (inc P.I.L.O.N) how the hell they expect people to vote for all this crap is beyond me but they are f***ing well trying, aye are they.
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by guardianangel »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 19:57
they are entitled to put their own views out, not just a scripted pile of propaganda shite. ive always been union through and through clash but this is absolutely disgraceful.
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We haven't got a union rep he's been sacked and for that reason alone i'll vote NO !!!!
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by portadown »

When wee get are vote its up to u and no other what way u vote and don't let royalmail or the cwu influence u to many people are getting stressed out over it at the end off the day ur health is more important
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

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clashcityrocker wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 19:53
daveyeff wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 19:46
ours are. our unit rep was dead against this deal last week. now, he's going round the office on a ''whisper campaign'' trying to get people to see the deal the unions way.
They are CWU representatives.
If they don't toe the party line, then shouldn't they resign their position?
Yes I agree. But some of these reps would rather sell their own grandma's than resign their position and go back to walking the streets. :cuppa
Which only goes to show how bad things have gone on deliveries
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